Should we ever switch this

up?

No.

Why? Absolutely not.

But what if people get

tired of it, and by people I mean

me?

Here's the thing.

There are entire

shows that keep the

same exact music.

There are several

podcasts that keep the exact same

music, and it's...

...And they suck.

... a perfect song for us.

Oh, yeah.

That's what I meant.

Yeah.

Greetings and salutations,

ladies and worms.

Whoa.

Rude.

It's a call back to something,

I'm sure.

Seems like it.

This is Perfumed Decay,

a podcast

about the Word

of God

and our

failure to uphold

it.

So much.

Or obey it.

Yeah.

More properly said.

This is episode 11.

Episode 11.

Season two,

episode one, technically.

But this is episode 11

of Perfumed Decay.

We're excited.

We're we're

ramping things up

as little by little.

Yeah.

As opposed to down.

And we

have an artist

on set.

My sister

who

speaks coherently

in the language of

meep.

And so if you speak meep,

she can't understand anything.

She is.

So she's painting.

And we don't know what she's

painting, but

you go on the

Patreon,

maybe you'll be able to see.

Or maybe.. you wanna show

this is through

Jimmy.

This is this

kibble.

One of the things that she

made.

Wait kibble or skibble,

Skibble.

You can kind of see

what she was.

Let me switch.

Let me switch to you.

It's pretty.

It's pretty small.

There you go.

And pretty

cool.

Pretty tight.

She does a good job.

Anyways,

then I

could do. You could

you could

see you could see

you could you could

see at some point.

Perhaps she

will

make

something

for the pod

specifically

maybe related

to the logo?

Oh, that'd be cool.

Or maybe she'll just

do whatever the freak she

wants.

Probably that.

That's a thing

that she could do when she

has a brain brain

brain brain.

It happens.

So was that a word?

It was like several words.

Been been in Ben.

That was was that a

word?

Like several words.

Oh, my gosh.

What does she just say?

You can say things.

This is possible.

What?

So she was mute.

I thought she was me.

What's the difference?

Don't do

that.

So.

Before we go any

further,

let's

do a quick check

in.

See if that's possible.

Mickaela,

me start with you.

What how is your

week been

great?

You've been in the podcast in a while.

So how that's

wild.

I don't know,

Mickael,

but I do have

her somewhat remember

this week.

Right.

So

this

week was

the last week of

school going

into spring break.

Wow.

So I had

three half days.

I had a serve

day.

Where I

went to food bank

and then I packed

boxes.

You go surfing.

Yeah, I go.

And

so

that was very

fun.

I put rice

into a box

for two hours.

Well, just like that

grain at a time.

Or is that my

serving

children?

Yes.

Yeah.

Love it.

That was fun.

Shout out to my serving children.

Be my starving

children.

That's a fun volunteering

gig.

If you're looking

Thursday

was field

day.

I watched the

rabid children

as they ran around

and I stayed

inside.

So you were not one of the

rabid children.

I was not one

of the rabid children.

Oh, I wouldn't be able to tell.

Thank you.

All children are rabid.

Friday, I played Minecraft

for three hours

and then I went home.

Very productive.

Wow.

What did you make?

I

destroy.

I went into a

mine and then got

lost several

times.

Wow.

Is it yours or?

Yeah.

Is it mine?

Oh, I

found it.

But it's also mine.

But it's, you know, if

you think about it, it's mine.

And there we go.

We have one listener and they're

gone.

Bye bye.

Somehow we got to order

of a listener.

Yeah,

one of my last

brain cells is

now dead.

Thank you.

Nice.

I'm gonna short circuit

your introduction series

because you usually

make yourself go last

and I don't know why maybe it's like a

humility thing because I'm the

one that ends up asking

the question.

Well, you know what, I'm taking

control here and humility

isn't here.

Steven,

how was your week?

All right.

You have to speak in

here.

There we go.

I'm gonna just change

early.

Same old same

old.

Yeah, pretty much.

Nothing has changed but has

anything dollars.

Oh,

money.

No.

Oh,

no.

It's been less money this this

week, right?

Yes.

Moon and looks like the same for

next week.

Same forecast.

Oh,

so the only money day

this week was Sunday,

right?

What about next week?

Looking like Thursday.

Cute.

Thursday night?

Dang it, man.

That's when we go to a community

group.

Yeah, that sucks.

Well,

that's to go to Wednesday

night.

We could go to Wednesday night.

We probably outside of the

community.

I have gray hairs, dude.

You have gray hairs.

Yeah.

And grandchild.

That's great.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Great.

They swim around a lot because

they're fish.

Is she?

Yeah.

Just keeps swimming.

They keep on swimming and

eating each other for some reason.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

That's a problem.

Maybe you should get that

checked.

It puts meat on your bones.

It puts meat on their bones.

Meat off the bone actually.

Yeah.

Off the bone and right back onto

the different bones.

Yeah.

Familial bones.

Yeah.

Familial ties.

Ties.

Not a tie.

It started a company called

Familial Ties.

What would you sell?

Ties. Yeah.

But if you know one who

would what if

no one won, who would

would

check probably

beavers, honestly.

Check.

Beavers. Dam.

Yeah.

Because they do give a dam, right?

Yeah.

Hoover's going to talk about this

and have a good time.

Hoover it is.

Wow.

This is a funny episode.

It is a riot.

This is great.

Punishment for

all

our...

Anyways.

Anyways.

So Mickael, how was

your week?

My week has been

the

same.

Yeah.

As it always is.

It has been...

Oh, you know what?

I did.

Mickael did things.

Make closer

friends.

Yay.

With a friend.

A friend from the community group.

Oh, yeah.

A friend and the Christendom.

What's his name?

Christian.

Oh.

Christian or Christian?

Christian?

Christian.

It's Christian.

It's Christian.

Yeah.

It's spelled right.

Maybe his name is Chris

Tunn.

We should ask.

Absolutely.

That's a question I should ask.

Yeah.

Because I've been the awkward one

so far.

Me too.

Ah.

Word.

I've made a total fool of

myself in front of those people.

Every time we're talking to them,

this last time we were talking to them,
I'm like,

I could not

be this way

and

be less

awkward.

But

I'm a lady

in it.

So let's keep doing this.

Mickaela,

what are you doing there?

I'm painting the back.

Okay.

Thank you.

Cool.

Back's black.

Yeah.

Nice.

Jack is back.

Who's Jack?

The king is black.

That's racist.

Where's the king black?

I don't know the rest of the song.

What?

Is the king wearing clothes?

I hope so.

Yeah.

He said yes.

What?

Are you accusing the crowd

of being drunk?

No,

the crowd was drunk.

Uh oh.

Wait, no.

Peter said the crowd was not

drunk.

It was the only spirit.

There was no way they could be drunk
because

it was 9am.

Yeah.

Right.

I don't know how we got

here.

I'm just letting my ADHD

take full reign of my life.

Okay.

Beautiful.

I am here.

Just here.

Good job.

Just here.

Hey,

Mickaela has learned that if you

drink coffee all

the time, you can

focus better.

Oh, yes.

So I learned that

coffee.

That's your.

I learned that coffee

counteracts

ADHD.

Yeah.

I got really excited.

It's pretty exciting.

Until you start getting the shakes.

And now she

not

only

coughs,

she coughs.

Ease.

Ease.

Easy.

Easily.

So your week was

good.

My week.

Yeah,

it's pretty good for you,

because of a certain

first done

that you met

in Christian dumb.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good.

And otherwise,

otherwise

it's just a normal week.

OK.

Same old, same old, same old, same old.

Yeah.

I would say.

It's not total same.

Let's say.

You will say because

Thursday I had an

emotional breakdown.

Yeah.

And you stayed

up way too late.

Help me through it.

So shout out to

me, Kyle

and

Steven.

We're just being there.

He drove.

Yeah, Steven drove.

We're actually in heaven right

now.

Never saw that one coming.

Yeah.

He helped in a different way.

Like, you know what?

I'm say this.

You're driving me crazy.

I'm going to drive you into the

ground.

Yeah, that's funny.

Yeah, well,

it was funny after

afterwards.

But yeah, moment.

No, I'm talking about what I

just said.

Oh, gosh.

I.

I.

I.

Yeah.

Good job, Mickael.

I give up.

You didn't.

You should give up.

I'm just on fire.

That's amazing.

I'm impressed.

I'm on fire because I know

that's true.

Arizona.

Yeah.

Otherwise known as Arizona.

Dude, Arizona has been bipolar this

week.

It's been hot.

It's been

freezing.

Yeah.

And then today is just like, it's all

right.

I walked outside

two days and

I'm like, well, I

didn't grab enough

sweater.

You grab like half

sweater.

I grab.

Yes.

I swear it's no good.

Half sweater.

She she grabbed her

friend.

She grabbed part of the sweater

and the rest of it didn't go with

it.

Yeah.

It's like a little snap on hoodies.

Yeah, it's like

it's like music.

It went halftime, you know.

I love.

Yeah.

I'm thinking of a halftime breakdown.

It

gets.

Why don't they have quarter time

breakdown?

So why isn't that more popular?

Is that a thing?

No, we should make a

thing.

We should make.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

I think.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Yeah.

So my week, the other thing

that wasn't that wasn't typical,

actually.

It's a typical because

we did.

What did we do on Tuesday?

We went to we got some awful

sushi.

Oh, right.

And but some

awesome.

Ours was awful.

This issue was the worst

I've ever had in

ever.

Literally ever.

What?

Yeah.

Like, and I've had Safeway

sushi, which is Safeway

sushi is bomb off.

Fry's sushi is better.

OK, some people have standards.

I

don't

know.

Obviously, clearly.

But yeah, and then

we watched Psych.

Yeah, I really like

our Tuesday

night endeavors.

They're pretty great.

And I can't wait because this

Tuesday,

hopefully we're going to watch the
prestige

prestige

prestige.

Are we going to cap it off

with a psych episode?

I sure hope so.

I think we'll have enough time if we do

it late early enough.

Do you call it goodness?

I think that would be good.

Good.

Good.

That would be pretty fantastic.

Yes.

And the question

is, Steven,

is your sister going to come on the pod?

Like my sister on the pod.

Well, if you get your sister,

I don't know what kind of accident I'm
doing

now.

They could sit in the last

time.

She was there.

They could share a mic.

That's true.

That's true.

British and Australian.

And I'm doing whatever accident

comes in my mouth.

Well, we could do a

sister's episode.

Oh,

interesting.

And I could just bring a gravestone

for mine.

Yeah, that's

crazy.

She did.

OK.

Yeah.

All right.

That's the end of the podcast.

We're not doing this

anymore.

I'm going to cry.

All right.

It's a good one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Shoot.

Bang.

But yeah, that's been good.

Yeah.

It's been a good time.

It's been good times.

Then there's those days

we spend a lot of time together.

Yeah, almost too much.

Yeah.

I get tired of you.

I we get we

get tired in

general, in general.

But I get tired of you.

So what happens when you stay up late?

When you just do many things?

Well, that's what we're doing right

now.

It is nine.

It is nine.

And we are 30

minutes back on the

train.

Yeah.

I know how I did that.

You might need to try.

That was weird.

You should probably get into the opposite.

Opposite.

Opposite.

Opposite.

Appo.

Also, I'll do the opposite.

Oh, I'll go down inside.

PPI.

No,

no.

Pin pineapple, apple.

pin, And P.

PPAP.

Isn't there a product called Apple pin?

I don't know.

For the iPad.

App hand.

So Apple pin

before we get into our

perfume.

Oh, pen

pineapple

cycle.

Daniel, how is your weekend?

My week has been wonderful.

PPAP.

How's it?

It hasn't been.

I've been up.

I've been down.

I've been all around.

And so far

around.

Not finding another word that

rhymes with all that, but

I'm pretty good.

I'm pretty good right now.

I could be psychotic.

Could be a psychotic, psychotic break.

Who knows?

Well,

if you get through it, then it's a break.

Oh,

dude.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I was crying in my

car.

Yeah.

At midnight.

Great.

Monday.

Monday night.

Monday night.

After going to the gym.

Oh, it was a crazy

workout,

but I was

crazy insane because I was

quitting nicotine

gum.

Oh, because this guy,

Steven, if you're just

listening,

challenged me, he's like,

hey,

how about you don't order any more

nicotine gum?

Because it's obviously not

helping you quit.

And if you

get off of the

nicotine gum, I will

get off my

my arguably

worse Dr.

Pepper addiction.

And I was like, deal

deal.

And I had not kept it.

He has not kept it.

And I was like,

wait a minute, Steven, why are you
drinking Dr.

Pepper?

I thought we had a thing going.

He's like, oh, yeah, I know.

And then I said,

I'm going to order

nicotine gum right now.

And he's like,

OK, I don't care.

I was like, Steven,

I thought you cared about me, dog.

He just shook his head and took a

sip.

Well,

no,

I just said you

can if you

want to.

Yeah,

because I was drinking Dr.

Pepper.

Right.

And the thing is,

when

we were all

talking at the

restaurant, I was like

drinking three

to four.

Yeah.

But I was having a psychotic

break.

So of course I wasn't paying attention to
the

fact that you were drinking.

So would have run in front of me while I

was like pouring

my soul out.

I truly didn't even notice.

Yeah, because he didn't.

That's not true.

I noticed you get up a lot and

filled up.

I didn't know that you were on this

anti anti

doctor thing.

Anti doctor, pro doctor.

Oh, and

the tractor.

Road to the

tractor.

We don't have to.

Oh, he does.

His family was around

here.

Well, little, little, little, little.

Bring their eyes cold

there.

It's pure chaos.

His family is

part of his family is his

farmers.

Little trivia.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Trivia.

I have a little trivia pop right

there.

We can talk about

that later, though.

Cool.

So you had a

good cry.

A good cry

at midnight.

And the reason is because I

mean, it was a total

breakdown because

of the nicotine drop.

And I trued my brother out

the previous

day for talking

politics.

I talk talking politics,

but I especially hate talking

politics when

I'm coming

down from nicotine.

Yeah, apparently.

I was so

pissed at the gym that I couldn't

even finish my workout.

And it was my favorite workout.

It was arm

day.

And I was like,

I have to leave

before I throw a dumbbell

through this mirror.

Hmm.

Yeah.

So that'd be that'd be good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I left and

then

I drove home

pissed off.

And then I

thought to myself,

am I

broken?

I feel like I'm broken.

And then I just start crying.

So that was Monday.

Great.

Tuesday was fun.

Hanging out with you guys and everything.

Yeah, it was fun.

Wednesday, things are

a very different

experience.

Very, very

different.

Thursday was was tight

community group, obviously.

But then psychotic

breakdown with you guys.

So this week's been a roller

coaster.

It's been a ride.

Catharsis.

Yeah.

You could say probably a breakthrough

is coming around the

corner.

I

did.

Come to the conclusion Thursday

night and then pulled

the trigger on it Friday

night and today

that I

need.

I've always known this

forever.

I need help because I have

ADHD.

Yeah.

Among probably other

things.

I get help

already, but I need

more help.

And so I've reached out to those

helpful people

that exist.

It sounds like you're about to give an

ad for.

We are going to have

to bloop that out, but everybody

knows what we're talking about.

But yeah, reaching

out.

And unfortunately, there's only

two people in the state that could help

me.

So I might actually have to do telehealth

out of state

or

something Something else.

Specialists is what you're a saying.

special.

Specialized, because I want

to go to the best of the best.

Like if I

need

brain surgery,

I'm gonna

travel

to the

other side of the

world for the best brain surgeon

if I need to, right?

And I would consider this.

Worth it.

I would say

about,

it's not as

life

critical,

but it's as

deadly in a

way.

It could be.

And I'm being very

obviously

private about it.

Please don't ask.

I will not tell.

Don't ask.

Don't tell.

I will not tell.

I'm excited for tomorrow though.

Tomorrow.

Sunday dog.

Is.

Church day.

Church day.

Yeah.

Yeah,

great.

Cause you get to go to church.

Yeah, dude.

Yeah, you do.

Yeah, dude.

Yeah,

dude.

It's fine.

It's fine.

We're in church.

We're in church.

Yes.

Only the Patreonies

would know.

Patreonies.

Oh, so actually that's a little

update there.

We're gonna switch this around because

news usually goes at the end,

but I'm too excited to not share.

This is part of my week.

I'm describing my week.

Mickael, you asked me, this

is how my week

is going.

Yes.

I think we're gonna

do a thing now.

We're gonna do a thing.

A thing.

A thing.

Just one.

Just one thing.

Okay.

But multiple times.

Yes.

What we're gonna do is start recording

before we start streaming.

And that bits,

which is almost always

total chaos,

way more chaos than

what you've just experienced in the past,

what is it?

45 minutes, 42 minutes, whatever.

Yeah.

Way more than that, if you can imagine
that.

It's behind the

paywall, unfortunately,

at Patreon.

The wall that is paid.

The wall that

doesn't exist

right now.

So right now it's behind

the

fact

that it's not an end.

A process wall.

Yeah.

Operation's we have to get there

someday.

It's in process.

It's in process.

It's a work in progress.

It's due process.

It's definitely a work in progress.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

So that was my week.

Yeah.

It was not a week

I was weak this week.

You were weak this week, but

it wasn't a week It

wasn't a week week.

It was a strong week.

Okay.

It was a

gravitation

week.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Gravitation.

That's a word.

That is a It word.

is now.

Gravitation.

Gravitation, like,

presentated?

Gravitation.

Ooh.

It's more like

gravitation.

That's true.

That sounded like it hurt.

It was the watch.

It didn't hurt.

Yeah, for those listening, I just

reached up.

Like I was holding onto something

and then just like went into the ground.

Great.

Yeah, so today, what are we talking about?

Today,

we're talking about the

Bible,

but before we talk about the Bible,

I never would guess.

We are gonna pray.

Yeah.

Because it's the thing that we do on this
podcast.

Cool.

I mean, I do things on podcasts.

You do.

You do.

You do things on

podcasts.

Yeah,

among other things.

So who wants to pray?

All my friends.

Okay, cool.

All right.

Thank you, Lord, for this

very

interesting blessing that we

have to

gather

in your name

and

that we may

not feel it, that we may

not necessarily want it,

that we all the time,

I should say.

And though we

fall short

far too

often,

we have this opportunity

that we are

able

to come together

and go over your word

and talk about the things that you

put on our hearts,

that you made us each

uniquely.

You knew us before

the foundations of the

earth,

and you knew that this

would come about, and you knew

the effect that it would have on us,

and you knew

all the things that

would happen in and around

this podcast.

And we

are tasked,

we have tasked ourselves

with being honest

and

in doing

so, we have also tasked

ourselves with

struggling

greatly

to continue

forward.

Lord, I pray that

regardless,

this opportunity is

an offering

to you

that we raise up

as

weak,

sinful men

and women,

and

that we

will raise

up every

week

because it is

worth it.

So Lord, I pray that this time

that we

dive

into your word,

allow our minds to

wander and

wonder,

and...

and just

seek to

be honest with

ourselves, with each other,

and with you.

I pray that it is

a glorifying

offering to you.

And I pray this all in your name.

Amen.

We are in

Genesis 4.

We're back.

So the last two

times we actually

podcasted,

I think it's been about three weeks

total,

but the last,

because there was one week that

we didn't podcast, I think,

the last two weeks,

two times that we have

podcasted.

No, I'm pretty sure we did

two weeks off.

Two weeks off?

Or was it one week off?

Pretty sure it was just one week off.

Then why do you

say three weeks then?

Three weeks total.

But the last two, what I'm

trying to say is that we haven't been

doing a regular episode the last

two times.

So we did our constitution episode.

And then we did our

recap episode,

episode 10.

So it's been a bit

since we've done our

usual thing.

And here we

are back

where we

left off.

Chapter four,

starting in verse

17.

Now, here's the other thing that is

different about this.

Though we are back,

we actually kind of

mapped out the next

several episodes.

Yeah, we didn't.

So it may feel

a little bit different.

I'm the only one

with the notes,

though.

Oh, no.

And this is on purpose because

I still want the podcast to

flow the way that it

does.

We do

have a

tentative

stopping point, which is

verse 19,

but we will

see how

that goes.

So we could make it further.

We could not.

Who knows?

That'd be nuts if we made it further.

It would be impressive.

That should be like a prop

that like a

poly market profit.

Yeah, I don't

know what that means.

Who's Paulie and why does she have a

market?

It's I think it's like a

farmer's market.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Only happens on Saturdays or something.

Sure.

Today is Saturday.

Today is Saturday.

Not for much longer.

That's true.

It's like it's what

we've got like two and a half hours.

Yeah.

I know how time works.

That's what I tell ourselves.

You may have

noticed that this episode is called

Enoch.

Enoch.

See my beautiful cursive

handwriting.

Is that cursive?

Said is that writing?

No, that is actually

a elvish

scratching.

Into a

whiteboard

because we

we know that behind a

whiteboard is a black.

That's the wrong color.

How did I do that?

Oh my.

There's a question mark

and we will find out why there's a

question mark in a second.

When we read through the

passage.

So I will.

Does someone want to read?

I would love to read.

Do it.

I will.

17 through 19.

Actually, you can just read to the end of
the

chapter and we'll see how far.

Oh, for real?

Yeah,

it's not that much.

Dude.

Thanks, man.

Thank you.

Hain knew his wife.

And she conceived in Bora

Enoch.

When he built a

city,

he called the name of

the city after the name of

his son Enoch.

Creative.

So Enoch was

born Irad

and Irad fathered.

May he jail?

May he jail?

Yeah, sure.

And he'll father.

Methu's

Methu's shell.

And the shell

fathered Limak

and Limak

took two wives.

Interesting.

The name of

one was Ada

and the name

of the other

Zilla.

No association to

Zilla .com.

Ada or

Jubal,

who was the father of

those who dwell in

tents and have

livestock.

His brother's name was

Jubal.

He was the father of

all those who play the

lyre and pipe.

Interesting.

I'm getting confused with all these names,

man.

We have to go back.

Too many names.

We are going to go back.

In fact, that's kind of how this works.

Zilla, I mean, Zilla

also bore

Jubal Cain.

Who's naming these people?

The parents, obviously.

The first few people

of the

land.

Horrible naming things.

That's probably why we

have

platypus

and stuff.

Sure.

Yeah, so Zilla also

bore Jubal Cain.

He was the forger of

all instruments of

bronze and iron.

The sister of Tubal Cain

was Nama.

And that's it.

That's one sentence.

Guys, I'm stuck in a reading today.

Sorry about that.

Let me lock in

here.

Lamech Limak said to his wives,

Ada and Zilla...

hear my voice and

wives of Lamech listen to what

I say.

I have killed a man for wounding

me, a young man

for striking me.

If Cain's revenge is

sevenfold,

then Lamech is

77 fold.

And Adam knew his wife again,

interesting.

And she bore a son and

called his name Seth,

where she said, God has

appointed,

not anointed,

for me, another

offspring instead of

Abel,

for Cain killed him.

To Seth,

also a son was born and he

called his name

Enoch.

At that time,

people began to call upon

the name

of the Lord.

So,

starting in verse

17,

we see a name.

Cain.

Enoch.

That too.

Which is interesting.

Why is that interesting?

Because we know of

an Enoch.

Do we?

Already,

but it's not the same Enoch.

Where's the Enoch been?

Actually, we will be

talking about this in

later episodes,

but in

chapter

five,

Ah, there you go.

Verse 21,

or I guess 18

technically.

Oh, 18.

Jared bore,

or excuse me,

Jared,

one of his sons,

or his son, whatever,

was Enoch.

Another Enoch.

Yeah, it says when Jared had lived

162 years,

he fathered Enoch.

So,

obviously not the same

Enoch.

Right.

So, Jared fathered Enoch.

And then in this one, what was it?

Who's Cain fathered Enoch?

Cain fathered Enoch.

So,

we're probably gonna

talk about this on that

episode as well.

Probably.

To rehash it.

But,

what we know

about

Cain,

is that he's not a very

faithful guy.

Yeah, that's probably why it doesn't

say he fathered

Enoch.

Oh,

interesting.

Yeah, it doesn't say that he fathered

Enoch.

It just says that his

wife bore Enoch.

Yeah, and he knew

his wife.

His wife bore

Enoch.

I wonder if Cain was even

there.

Yeah, I was gonna say, like,

probably not.

If the Bible said it doesn't

say the fathered part, does

that mean that the father

didn't father?

Maybe,

well, probably not all

the time.

And it might not be true here either,

but.

I mean, that would kind of

fall into line with the whole

wanderer thing

that we had last

time we talked about.

But he was supposed to wander

and he didn't.

I mean, he could have still wandered

after starting a

city.

Cities are the way that they are

now, you know?

Like,

they don't get built up in the

same way.

What do you mean?

Cities are just giant gatherings of

people and resources.

Right, so there

could have been just

a giant gathering of people

that he brought together.

No, no, like,

and they just gathered

in this one spot,

they settled down and.

And then he moved on.

And he just moved on.

That's why

he didn't

father Enoch.

Boom.

See,

see.

Goodness gracious.

The first man to

go get some milk.

To go get a pack of smokes.

He's like, he's

like, I heard about

this land of milk and honey and

this Bible thing that

hasn't even been bought of yet.

Honey, I found you, I need

some of that milk.

That's crazy.

Gotta peace out.

I need to go get me some milk.

Or some smokes.

What are smokes?

I don't know.

I don't know, but.

I don't know, but I

see some black stuff off in the

distance and I need it in my

lungs.

Is he?

Sodom and Gomorrah, that's crazy.

What?

I think so.

I think so.

And yeah, and I need Gomorrah

of it.

So let's go.

Bye bye.

I sodom and I

said to myself, I

need Gomorrah that.

That's crazy.

So here's the

question.

First city.

Tell me about it.

Well, it's named Enoch.

Cause Cain is very creative.

It's interesting that

he's

built a city.

Like you can't do that by

yourself, obviously.

And then he names it after his

son Enoch.

So I wonder if he's,

I mean, obviously we know that people are

living like hundreds,

hundreds and hundreds of years.

So I wonder how long this actually

is.

Yeah.

Cause I mean, he

doesn't like for

them, probably a hundred years.

It's like, you know, that's,

that's like 10 years to us.

Yeah.

Well in in hindsight, sure.

I mean, even

in our limited experience,

we know the time speeds up the lower you

get, the

more it speeds up.

So maybe they knew that

from their parents'

experience,

but you think about it,

Adam and Eve, they

were told they were going to die.

They just didn't know when.

It must have been

interesting

seeing how

long a

person would live until they

died for his first time.

Because the first person

who died was

able.

Right.

And he was murdered.

So not natural causes.

Well,

was he the first person that died

or was he just the first

person that killed?

Well, I guess it's possible that

you could lose,

you could have lost some life

through childbearing.

So stillborn baby

or,

you know, mother

not making it.

I wonder

if that was

the case because

the way

we talked about it

before is

that their genetics are really strong

at this time.

So maybe that's

not really the case

yet.

What do you mean?

Their genetics aren't strong yet?

Their genetics are

stronger.

So they're not dying in

childbirth.

Yeah.

I think regardless, without

medical care,

like

just

because your body can

survive

hundreds of years

doesn't mean

it's not going to bleed the

same.

So if you have trauma and pregnancy

and

you don't

have proper medical

care, your body

is still

not going to be able to respond fast

enough.

Right.

Well, but that's

based off

of

right

now.

Yeah.

But everything that's

happened.

But thousands of years after.

Yeah.

But this we're talking like

differences of genetics.

We're not talking of

differences.

But we're also talking about

differences in

environment.

Well, in

circumstances,

technically,

because there

are still more things

that are

done

after this that

greatly influence

the course of

history.

How does that tie in?

How does that tie in?

Yeah.

People's actions have

a great effect

on history.

I thought we were talking about

like the

very real possibility

that people

could have died before

Abel

was murdered.

Yeah.

But what I'm saying

is,

because I'm just talking about the way

that you,

the idea that you

thought of,

I'm saying like people could have still

died.

Maybe it's, I don't know,

falling off a cliff.

Yeah.

Or it's,

you know, maybe they

eat the wrong

plant or

whatever.

Someone they made a plan.

Something.

And

they,

but I'm

saying like maybe

a

stillborn death isn't as

likely

because

again, we're

coming from a

decline from

perfection.

Right.

And so they're

not that far.

So Adam and they

were perfect

and then they send and

then they immediately

were not perfect anymore.

But perfection

doesn't necessarily, er,

they're,

we'll

look at it this way.

Untainted.

Right.

Genetically untainted.

Yes.

Genetically

as

whole as

genetics could

be.

Yeah.

So there's, there's a lot of

things that haven't

happened

genetically,

medically,

a lot of decisions that haven't

been made to

cause

certain

medical

issues

down

the line.

So you're talking like,

uh,

intermarrying, uh, when

it was dangerous to do so,

uh, you're talking like,

uh,

the choke points in

genetic history,

uh, tower,

babble flood,

um, probably

a few other things that

aren't even in the Bible, like,

uh, worldwide,

uh,

well, if you

think about

it, um,

environmental changes

in

your

genetics

haven't

come into play

because people

have adaptation.

Yeah.

Okay.

Because people haven't lived in other

areas.

Well, that's not true.

We don't know if they haven't

lived in other areas.

Well,

not lived in other areas

as in like

tech.

Well, God hasn't

split

the

land.

Oh, like Pangea.

Yeah.

Oh, I see.

And so, so just because

it's like, it's a very different

we have the U

S and it's, it's not the

whole government obviously, but,

um,

you, you go on the west coast.

It's It's very different

from the these East Coast

and the

center of the country is very different.

The top of the country is very different

from the south to

the bottom of the country.

So you can still have like this

one continent,

Pangea,

and

have all

kinds of different

environments and

climates.

Yeah, you can.

But again, there's

it.

We don't necessarily know how many

people there are.

These are the very

first people.

Yeah, we could probably do

some pretty simple math to

figure it out.

Maybe, but we don't

technically know

how many

kids Adam and Eve

have had.

Yeah.

In order for

Cain to have

a city.

A city.

Yeah.

So are there

to have been married?

I

don't

think

so.

Yeah.

So that and again,

families were so tight

granted Cain

moved

on.

But not

necessarily.

He wandered.

Yeah, he was cursed to wander.

Yeah.

But when did Cain

ever listen?

He chose to wander.

Did he?

I'll go back.

My punishment is greater than I

can bear.

Behold, you have driven me today

away from the ground and

from your face.

I shall be hidden.

I shall be a fugitive and a

wanderer on the earth and whoever

finds me will kill

me.

So he's cursing himself.

You're talking about no, he didn't curse

himself.

So this is the Lord.

Verse 10.

And the Lord said,

this is chapter four verse 10.

The Lord said, What have you done?

The voice of your brother's blood is
crying

to me from the ground.

And now you are cursed

from the ground, which has opened

its mouth to receive your brother's

blood from your hand.

When you work the ground,

it shall no longer yield to you its

strength.

You shall be a fugitive and a

wanderer on the earth.

And then Cain complained.

Let's see.

Then God says, if anybody kills

Cain,

vengeance shall be taken on him

sevenfold.

And then God marks

him.

Sort of with a seal.

Then Cain went away

from the presence of the Lord

and settled in the

land of Nod east of

Eden.

Anyways,

but that's where he makes the city.

The adaptations would

have to happen

generationally.

No, not necessarily.

Adaptation can happen.

Like probably large

adaptations.

Like if we're talking like the

birds

beaks and everything, that

has to be generational.

Right.

But I'm saying

in order

to get the level

of

issues

way

after the cause,

still still births and

pregnancy.

Because

we're

also talking about like

people from

tons of different

lands coming

together.

People that

aren't

Israel

intermingling

with Israel, which

I

would

dare say that

that probably caused medical

issues because

that is

tainting the bloodline

that God

specifically told

them not to

do.

Yeah, but which

is cursing.

He specifically allows that

to happen in

a lot of situations, too.

He does specific.

That doesn't mean that it's enough

consequences.

Well, this obeying God always has.

Exactly.

So I don't think it's

genetically tainting

because then you're wandering into

territory of

genocide, which

only God is allowed to

do.

Because you know how

your mom says,

I brought you into

this world.

I can take you out of it.

God literally can do

that.

God does commit genocide

on the Amalekites or attempts

to, but then Saul just

doesn't.

God also tries to

commit genocide on

the Canaanites

when Israel is

given their land.

And Israel

blundered

immediately as they went into

the Promised Land and like made a

deal with the devil

basically.

And

basically

the deal was

you

can't kill us.

We'll be your slaves forever.

And those slaves forever

were

thrown on their side

for

I

think all of history.

I think that's

like the problems in the Middle

East kind

of.

I would want to

look into this to be sure.

But I've heard that

some

of the problems that are in the Middle

East today stem from

that moment.

And so, yes, there's lasting

worldwide

impacts.

impacts

from your

decisions.

But saying that

allowing

outside

nations to

marry into the

Israel nation

is tainting

the bloodline.

If you mean actually

tainting the bloodline, I disagree.

If you mean tainting the spiritual

bloodline, I would agree.

Well, so

this brings the question,

why did he not want

them to be together?

Because the

people

outside the nation of Israel

were worshiping other

gods and had other

customs and cultures.

What happens

when

you

worship other gods

historically?

You live a

very different

way,

which

could be

extremely

unhealthy

in

more than

just

how

you act.

Well, I mean, yeah, you look

at the worshipers of Baal,

or

apparently

pronounce Baal,

they would

sacrifice

their children

from

basically

birthing table

to fire.

Yeah.

And the way that they would

sacrifice their children that way

was just

torturous.

But

a little political commentary

here.

I know I hate politics, but

today,

the way that we abort children is

more torturous than how

they did it back then.

Today, we rip them limb from

limb.

Which I...

Among so many other...

I can only imagine

if

or

how that

affects the

mother's womb

medically.

Yeah.

Back then, they didn't care at all,

though.

I

can't

say that.

But from what

I observed in

the Bible, in history,

they didn't care.

Well, they thought that they were

starving

the right God.

Right.

So do you know

the purpose of

the sacrifice to Baal?

Number one, how was...

What was the sacrifice?

How was it done?

And for what purpose?

Steven, you know?

Mika?

I don't know the purpose,

to be honest.

I knew it before, but

I forgot.

Those Bible classes, dude.

All right.

So how

they did it was they would put

their baby

in

a

statue of sorts.

I don't know exactly what.

I think it was a

bowl

or something.

And they would put

the child

in

the

metal portion.

And they would heat up the...

I'm badly explaining

this.

The whole statue would be

red hot.

There would be a portion where you could
place

the baby in a roll down, basically

a sled.

Into the belly

and

burn to death.

So the thing would be

red hot and you would put the baby on

the thing and

it would

roll and

its skin would

burn off and stick.

And so you would

peel

all of the baby's skin off

as it rolls into the fiery

stomach of the

idol.

That's how they sacrifice their children.

And usually it was

firstborns

from what I remember.

And the reason for all

of that was

so that they could have

monetary blessings

from Baal.

It's eerily similar

today.

We allow

people

to...

Murder their children.

Murder their child.

So that they can have

more opportunities

or

potential

opportunities to

have career

advancements

or

not

have to spend money on children

so that they can go on

vacations

or

maybe it's not

even money.

So they can have

time to themselves

because they know that they would have to

sacrifice all of their time

raising this child for the next

20 plus years.

That's a sacrifice

not to Baal anymore

but to yourself and money.

Maybe it's not

as torturous in

our minds

to

clip a baby's arms

off and then legs off and

like stuck its brain out.

Because for whatever

reason we think that

it's normal.

It's not a person.

But granted,

I mean even just thinking

about either one of

them.

A baby rolling

down

a

searing

slide

and

all of its skin

getting

peeled

off on the way down.

That's brutal.

That's insane.

One word for it.

It's but it's

quicker.

That's a quicker death

than things

snip the part.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's true.

Plus you've been born.

Yeah.

You You had some

time.

You don't even get born.

All this to

say

that

this,

those kinds of things

have.

Yes, so yes, dealing

with.

Consequences.

Dealing with the wrong crowd

has consequences.

Right, and so I mean, I

can't imagine

what

those idol

worshipers

would be

doing in light of that.

In light of.

In light of

those kinds

of acts.

Yeah, or similar

or whatever.

Right, and so again,

we don't have any of that

at this point.

Yeah, we do.

Not in the US maybe.

No, no, no, I'm

talking about in

the Bible right now where we're at.

We don't have any of

that.

That hasn't rolled down.

It hasn't become part

of the

blood, right?

The blood, like, able's

blood soaking the earth.

No, I'm

talking about genetics.

It hasn't, it hasn't, it

hasn't, it hasn't

caused us.

Sorry, I am coming back to what

we're talking about, which is

how

genetics

influences

childbearing.

None of that has happened.

We have not experienced

any of those

extremely.

Those children didn't have to die.

But the decisions,

yes, but I'm saying that

there are medical

consequences,

practical consequences that

God adds,

or excuse me, that God

already

ordained to be

a part

of

disobedience

to him.

Right, right.

So you're talking

wisdom.

No, I'm

saying

that,

I'm just saying that none

of this has taken place.

So any of the things that they were

doing, whether it was sexually,

whether it was just

being

stupid,

whatever it was,

has not happened

yet.

So what I'm saying,

it's not affecting

the genetics,

meaning that we

wouldn't have

this kind of thing.

If we're looking at it

as

genetics

are declining,

as time goes on,

because of sin, because of the

fall, because of

all of that,

and the

effect that

certain acts over

history are not

affecting the

generational line yet.

Yeah, yeah.

So I agree that

decisions

affect future

generations.

But then there's also

practical

events that

happen,

like the flood, I like said,

that bottleneck genetics

just

naturally,

scientifically.

Oh

no.

We've got a camera here

here.

I can't see your face, Mika.

Oh no.

It's zooming in and out and everything.

Okay, let me.

I'm special.

There you go, that should help it out.

Anyways.

So we got on this topic

because

we disagree

on the fact

that

there could have been other people that

died.

Yes, outside of Abel being

murdered.

Yes.

And it could have been quote unquote
natural

causes, but not dying of

old age,

right?

I believe that that

is possible,

even though they

had peak

genetics,

right?

They had the best of the best.

Yes, it is possible.

He did the best genetics.

I'm just saying it's less

likely.

I don't think so.

Maybe a little bit,

but without medical technology,

the highest,

not the highest, the most

common cause of death

was giving birth

and being born.

But again, this is time when people

were living hundreds of years,

which means that doesn't

matter though.

We don't know that.

We do know that.

We don't.

We do know that.

How do we know that?

Because today,

if you live through the most

dangerous portion of life

from a

hundred

living from

before the flood.

Well, yes, it's extremely different
because

it's much safer,

but still the most dangerous

portion of life is your

younger years.

If you survive through your

twenties,

I mean,

even to like it

survived to the age of

five, your

likelihood of

living

longer than

that skyrockets.

If you live to the age

of 18

skyrockets more,

you live to the age of 30,

man, you're gonna probably live a while.

Well, we don't know how

living to a

affects

anything.

That's not even

a

factor in our

genetic pool, right?

There's a reason why it's

dangerous.

It's because

of the

maturing process of a human

being,

which does not change no

matter how long you live.

We don't know that.

Yes, we do.

How would we possibly

know that?

We haven't touched a person

that has lived 900

Well, years.

Well, we look at all of.

history that we know

and nothing

has changed about the age

of maturity.

But that doesn't...

We have thousands of years

of history.

Again, we haven't touched someone that is
over

200 years old.

It doesn't matter.

Even over 150.

It does not matter.

It does.

No, it does not.

No.

If we've never

gotten anywhere close

to where Adam and

Eve were alive.

There's still people.

Because they've all been

destroyed.

There's still people.

Yeah, there's still people.

Here's the thing.

Here's the thing.

Considering your point,

if their genetics are better,

maybe they mature faster.

So by the time they get to 10

years old, it's as if

they got to 20.

But again, that's...

But they still have

years of

very dangerous

life, especially

given that they don't have the

same amenities that we do

today.

Life -saving interventions,

etc.

Just normal

washing of hands,

a good clean place

to live.

Not saying that they didn't have that,

but

we

just don't know.

Probably not.

They had dangerous animals.

They had dinosaurs back then.

That's ridiculous.

Very dangerous.

There was not enough humans living

for long enough

to gather up

all those dangerous animals and kill them

all.

We have the advantage of

today.

So I'm

saying that it's very dangerous

that the human body

has not changed.

No, I'm not saying that at all.

I'm saying

we've

lost genetic information.

We have

expressions

of genetic

information that existed back then,

but was not expressed

yet until now.

What I'm saying is

humans

mature

one way.

And the reason we

know that is

because we

came from Adam and Eve

and we

mature

this way.

So what would

change our

process of maturing

if we came from them?

Why

would

we mature

any

differently

besides,

granted, worse

because we have less

pure genetics?

So it might

take us longer to

mature.

Here's the

thing.

Even in light of the

maturity

issue,

if if the human

body

has not

gone

through

the same

things,

like I don't

think Adam and Eve

add

the same kind of

stress,

same kind of anxiety.

I don't think they worked in the

same way.

I don't think they

felt things in the same

way.

They definitely didn't have the same diets

that we do.

They don't have anything

close to the same diets.

In fact,

they don't breathe the same

kind of air.

They

don't

think the same way.

They don't act the same way.

They don't go to the same places.

They don't like like.

And granted, that's

changed dramatically.

Environmental over

the over

the over time.

And again,

a lot of things have not

happened to the

genetic pool

to

influence.

So familial how

these things

are done.

So nature,

how that how to talk in nature and

environment.

Right.

So nature, it's nature and

nurture.

Right.

So nature

is

the decisions

that our ancestors have

made.

Sure.

Nurture is the environment that we grow

up in.

Adam and Eve also had

nature and nurture.

Their nature was sin.

There were children of sin now.

And their environment was different.

Yes.

But how is that any different

than

every human

being who is alive today?

Well, and again,

God,

certain consequences, the

consequences did not

just happen

immediately.

Yeah,

it happened over time.

The the

the thing

that was immediate was

the

guarantee,

the guarantee of death.

Yes.

The other immediate thing was the

increased

pain in

childbirth,

which.

Increased pain

translates

to me.

To.

More dangerous, sure,

more tearing, more

whatever the heck goes on

in childbirth.

So that makes

it so women can bleed

out.

But how how

how

much

does

genetics

affect

that?

Thousands of years.

It doesn't.

It doesn't.

It doesn't because it's part of the

curse.

But you're saying how much more,

how much more does

affect it?

Probably a lot.

But right.

So again,

that's why that's what I'm saying.

Right.

We don't know.

I'm not.

We have no idea.

But if things

are technically.

better because a lot

of things have not happened,

that means that it is extremely

less likely.

Yeah, it's extremely less likely, but

there's so many people having

kids at this

point that

it's likely to

have happened.

Sure.

Cause they're not just having two

kids or three

kids.

Like

a

lot of these families were

like hundreds of

people.

You know, it's really funny.

We would have hundreds of kids.

Talk about

this

is not the thing that I thought we would
talk

about.

Yeah.

No, it's always go off on a

weird tangent

that none of us see

coming.

So should we try to tie it back?

This is a great journey.

Thank you.

Um,

I mean,

any, uh,

comments from the,

uh, the quiet peanut gallery.

Yeah.

Peanut gallery.

You are the peanut gallery.

I like peanuts.

Any comments,

comments, concerns,

questions,

uh,

thoughts, connivings.

Let me think

concerns.

Mickael's argument

is genes

were strong.

What was yours?

Um,

that genes were the,

because of the curse and

childbearing is dangerous.

Pretty much the same.

Yeah.

But why were we talking about that in the
first

place?

We were talking about because

knock

and

pain

and

reproduction.

Cause we were talking, we were talking
about

death.

You said that Abel was the

first person to die.

And I said, that's probably

not the case because

anybody could have died

before then

or around then.

Yeah.

And, but I also was saying

like, it would be

weird

not knowing

how old they would

live to, um,

like the

concept of dying of old

age might've

not been a thing until

someone actually died of old

age.

Like everybody

to that point

had only died from

either

murder or a

unfortunate event.

Sure.

We can always agree on that

because we

see, uh,

well, we don't see

the record of,

of

women dying, but we

do see the later on

in chapter five, uh,

the record of, uh,

people's lives.

Um, let's see.

Adam.

Yeah.

Um, Adam lived

930 years and he

died.

This is first

five of

chapter five.

Um, so

there was almost a

thousand years where no one knew

what the

lifespan of a man

was maybe

let's just be

generous.

Let's say Eve died at 500,

like still half a

millennium.

Sure.

People had no idea how long they would

last.

Either that's terrifying

or maybe

people just never thought of it.

And then when

people started dying of old age,

that was terrifying.

Who knows?

Just a thought.

And that went off on a

giant rabbit trail,

like an hour.

Um, thoughts, comments

from the peanut gallery.

So something

that

I think

would

definitely have an effect on

the, uh,

gene pool is coming

up, but

no

thoughts.

No brain.

No brain.

No brain.

How is your painting going?

Uh, this is a middle

painting

going

down.

Great.

Okay.

Awesome.

And at the end of you, how's

that painting going?

Oh,

that's pretty good.

Wow.

Shoot.

That's my stuff.

Um,

because she doesn't practice

those things.

Are you jelly?

Um, I don't

know.

I am a human being actually.

You're mostly jelly.

Don't worry.

It's just your bad genetics.

Nice.

That's my thoughts.

Feelings questions,

concerns.

No, not really.

I thought, wow.

Cain and Abel were

Adam and Eve's first.

That is the assumption.

Yes.

Also we technically do not

know.

It just says that

the first two.

Those are the ones.

Man

child's.

That's scary.

I mean, I guess, I guess

technically,

yeah,

I guess technically we

can.

I think so.

If we, if we look at it from

what she says that,

yeah, these were the first

children,

um, cause it says that God

gave her a man child,

which, Oh yeah.

Wait, is it man child?

Cause she says, um, In

the different version.

Yeah.

Different version probably says that.

I remember that.

Um,

so Enoch has

kid Enoch's kid

has a kid.

Enoch's kids kid

has a kid.

Enoch's kids kids kid

has a kid.

And then it keeps on.

And then And then we get

Lamech who

took.

two wives.

So we're just going to skip over all of

that.

Do we want to like put it down on the
record or

something?

We don't know.

And like they're

given no significance

other than they lead to

Lamech.

Why are they included then?

Why are they included?

Let's just run through it real quick.

So verse 18,

Enoch was born to Ired.

Ired was born to Enoch, yeah.

Yeah, sorry.

I was so confused for that.

I'm like, okay, how does that work?

So yeah, so Cain,

Enoch, Ired,

Ired,

Mejajul, whatever.

Then Methuza,

Shol,

Del,

whatever.

And then Lamech.

Yeah, I don't think there is any

significance at all.

The whole verse just to be

like Heavola, you know.

Well, it's to

lead to

Lamech.

Lamech.

The point of the...

Maybe the point is the fact that

there's so much time

between...

No, the point is to

draw a straight line

of where someone

came from.

Because if you were to just say

from Enoch

came whatever.

Yeah.

Who cares?

But like

there's

people, those people

influence their life.

Those people were

important in the

story technically

because they

had an influence on Lamech.

So we have

several

generations

away from Cain

and then we have what

happens

or what

Lamech

ends up saying,

talking about Cain.

Yeah,

But...

Do you think he's dead at this point?

Cain?

Yeah.

Probably not.

Probably not.

Because three lines

down, it's probably been

like, I don't know, even if it was

every 100 years,

Yeah, yeah.

Cain probably still be around.

Yeah.

We do see

the

average

birth rate.

Like we can sort of deduce

that because later on

in chapter five,

it talks about

how

old people were when they

first had their

kids.

And if I remember correctly,

it's somewhere between like 50

to 100

years.

Which is kind of...

In where?

Chapter five.

Chapter five?

Yeah.

It's definitely in

the...

Is it hundreds?

Hundreds.

A lot of the time.

Okay.

Like Seth,

105 years.

Enosh was

90.

90, 70,

65,

162,

65.

65,

160,

135.

182.

Yeah, 182.

So it's...

So let's just say 50

to 200 years.

Yeah.

But it sits

right around like

75 on average.

That's it.

That's a lot of numbers.

75 is

probably

low.

It doesn't matter.

So

that's

a long time

for our perspective.

Yeah.

Right.

But for the average

age that they live to, that

would be like...

Us having kids

at

11 years

old to 20 years

old, basically.

Wow.

Like seven years old to 20 years

old.

Yeah.

But for them, it's okay because

they weren't

seven years old.

Right.

But lifespan

wise, it's not

odd

that they would wait

that long.

So that being said,

we're

418.

So Enoch

from

Cain.

That's one generation.

Enoch to Irad.

Irad to

Mehejil.

Mehejil to

Methusel.

Methusel to

Lamech.

So that's five generations.

And so that's...

We don't have to count Cain.

So let's just say four

counts.

Four counts of 100

years.

So that's 400 years

before

Lamech even has kids.

So for sure Cain's still

at this point.

Like let's say Cain is

600 years old because he

waited 200 years to have his kids.

Which I doubt.

So 600 years old,

still hanging out.

And Lamech comes

on the scene and he's like,

Grandpa Cain

ain't got nothing on

me.

Because he goes off and

says, what?

Well, we're not there yet.

No, we are.

We're skipping everything else.

He says,

Aida hear my voice.

You wives of

Lamech, listen to what I say.

I've killed a man for wounding me,

a young man for striking me.

If Cain's revenge is

sevenfold,

then Lamech is

fold.

Seven times seven...

sevenfold.

Basically seven times 70.

But back to

where we actually were.

Whoops.

Lamek Lamech has

two wives.

What a

weirdo.

So

this is the

first time

that we're

hearing

about...

Look at me.

Okay well yeah.

That's that word.

And

that's

kind of big.

Yeah.

Considering we're talking about

genetic

influence.

Break that down for me.

Well there

are

medical

things

that happen when you

mate

with multiple

people.

So like

STDs?

Could be.

Okay.

I don't know necessarily.

I enjoy how you use the word

mating.

Mating?

With the human race.

Did you use the word

mate?

Yeah.

Mate.

Come on.

Mating.

Basically what it is.

Come on mate.

With the human race.

We are animals.

That's true.

We're very hyper complex animals.

But...

Made in an image of God.

And so are some primates.

Primates are made in an image of God?

No.

Or hyper complex?

Hyper complex.

Yeah all animals are hyper

complex.

Me too.

But we're the only ones made in God's

image.

Yeah.

But the issue

with

this is not

necessarily

entirely

physical.

What does this do

to the human psyche?

We see that

with...

Probably

here.

But we also see this

an epic

showdown

between

wives

of

other

pretty

famous men in the Bible.

I think it's Leah and Rachel with

Jacob.

Where they've

got this giant

family feud that

comes out of

the fact that he marries two

wives.

So family

chaos.

So a bad environment

to be

raised in which

causes

chaos

downstream

in

those following families

too.

And there's this sense

of

promiscuity.

I mean yes it says that he

has two wives but

if he has two wives why

not just

go off

and do whatever the heck he

wants.

Why not...

I mean he goes and murders people.

Why not?

Yeah apparently because he

was angry.

He thinks it was because he was angry.

Well he killed a man for winning him I
guess.

But that could have been a ride.

Yeah but

we're seeing

this and we see

a lot of it

down the line.

There's...

I mean all of these

men

technically

could have

multiple wives.

And we just...

it's just not brought up.

It was probably normal.

I mean we see that it's

normal with

a lot of Israel

Bible characters.

Yeah David.

Yeah several wives.

Solomon.

The quote unquote wisest man

to live.

Right.

Pretty much.

He was not wise enough to

only have one wife.

Yeah pretty much didn't see any

problems coming from that.

Yeah uh

Abraham.

Jacob.

Yeah.

Jesus

being like

the only one

homeboy who's like

you know what women are crazy.

I made them be crazy.

I'm good.

That's not right.

No.

Jokes folks.

Jokes.

Don't cancel me.

But this is the

first time that we're seeing this

and we

are definitely seeing that it has

an effect.

I mean we are not...

why are we definitely saying

it.

But we could we could

presume that there's an

effect.

Yeah.

And I think we could presume that from the

following verses.

Right.

What?

So and Lamech took two wives.

The name of one was Ada and the

name of the other was Zilla.

So we got Ada and Zilla.

Ada Z.

He's got the wives Ada

Z.

That's crazy.

Wow.

Trying to think of a way to remember it

because that's

freaking weird names dude.

Ada bore Jabal.

Good luck remembering

that.

Jabal's in your court.

There you go.

That makes sense.

Thank you.

He was the father of

those who dwell in

tents and have

livestock.

So this guy is

like the founder

of

tents

and

and and

ranches.

Basically

that's Jabal.

That's my boy Jabal.

Not my boy.

I mean I I don't want

to be in Cain's family.

But

then,

as if it

wasn't

already confusing,

verse 21, his brother's

name was Jubal.

Jubal and Jubal.

Yeah, Jubal, J -A -B -A

-L.

Then Jubal, J -U -B

-A -L, because that's not

confusing.

I hate it when parents do that.

They do it all the times, too.

I can't think of

a child named

Kayla.

And Mickaela.

Yeah.

I'm just going to change

it up a little bit.

And add a little,

hey.

That's big.

So, Jubal

was

the father, go and

go, maybe the,

nowadays we call it the founder,

of all those who play

the lyre and pipe.

I assume the lyre and pipe is

like strings

and

like brass

instruments or whatever.

Lyre.

Like a recorder or something.

Oh, it looks like Steven's looking it up.

Thanks,

Steven.

Steven's getting my

version.

It says, harp

and organ.

Harp and organ.

Interesting.

I don't know what an organ looks

like, but I know what a harp

looks like.

Well, an organ

can come from

any mammal.

That's true.

They probably did.

They probably did.

Ooh, wait.

I'm extremely

confused.

Why are you confused?

By what point you're trying

to make it.

Well, I mean, I'm just reading

the Bible.

Oh, the Bible.

You're just moving on.

Yeah, I'm moving on.

Okay.

The Bible's got a point.

I don't need to make a point.

I know there's a point.

I didn't think

we were done

talking about what we were

talking about.

I think we were done.

Because I definitely said that

there's a massive

effect that this has

on

everything.

On everything, yeah.

Clearly.

And then you're just like,

you had said,

yeah, clearly has an effect

and we'll see

that.

And then you went on and you

read the Bible.

No, no.

I think you said that.

So what I heard you say

is

it

had an effect.

But we're not

certain

that it had an effect on

this family because we don't

see it.

Did I assume incorrectly?

That is what I said.

And then that

cut you off.

Yeah.

Did you have more to add to the

whole span of

consequences?

I

mean,

this

the rise of

decision.

What I'm trying

to get at

is that

because

I had brought up

earlier that a

major

effect

on the gene pool

is probably how

we

did things

sexually.

Yeah.

Okay.

People aren't things.

Not just

because

obviously

Noah

was

in his family

line was

the only one

left.

After the flood, yeah.

After the flood.

But we see

literally right

after

the flood

that this

that

promiscuity

continues was

still there.

And so there's something

carried

on from

decision making

that is

from

an evil land.

And again, we don't

know

necessarily

what

I mean.

From what I

understand,

God didn't find favor

in Noah's

family.

Yeah.

He found favor in Noah.

Yeah.

So we don't know

what his sons

were about.

We know

what they were like

after and

the decisions that they made then

and

the daughters.

So this

this effect

that is going to

trickle down

is

going to

affect

or is,

you know, maybe it

started here or maybe

this is just

this is just showing

up because it's

already prominent

in the culture.

People don't know.

People don't care that God

said one

wife

or

they didn't take

it as one wife.

Yeah, they didn't take it as that.

They took it as,

oh,

like it just says that a man is

going to leave

his father and mother and

be joined with

his wife,

be joined with a woman.

It might have been like a

head slapper, though,

like a no duh kind of

thing.

Yeah, it might have been obvious.

Maybe the

word

is singular or something

like one wife.

Maybe that's not the only time

God said something.

And so

we're seeing

a major

another major

step in disobedience.

A major step into

the.

sinful nature.

Yeah, right after coming

from the line of

murder,

I'm gonna say.

And so

again, another

thing is

how sin

trickles down

I mean, it's in

continues and

adds if

you've, and we see,

I think

Paul

talk

about if you've

committed one of these

sins, it is

as though you've

committed all of them.

I mean,

one sin can

and probably if

you let it fester

will lead to another

sin

because

it's all rooted in

pride.

It's all rooted in being God.

It's all rooted in

whatever.

Being the ultimate

judge.

And so I can make whatever

decision I

want.

And, you know,

but we see later

obviously that Lamech,

he has his wives,

but he looks at

murder.

He's like, I just killed somebody.

And maybe, you know, it was self defense,

but he still

views

killing

somebody as

being very

heinous.

And so, you know, I

don't want to, I

didn't want to

jump over

this because

this is,

this is where it

starts.

This is where all the

destruction.

So he took two

wives and it ended up

in him being a

murderer.

Well, no, I'm not saying that

neighborhood

boss.

It's not necessarily that he does

mobster that, but

a family man,

but it's

one,

he comes from the line of can,

can murdered.

Yeah.

And then down the line,

it devolves

further.

He, you know,

his great, great, great, great

grandson murders

and that

continues forward

and he curses

himself.

Yeah.

And that curse, I would

dare say probably didn't

take no hold

on

the rest of

time.

And granted, yes,

everything came through Noah,

but it's not as though Noah

didn't feel the

effect of everything.

It's not as though his kids

didn't feel the effect.

And again, they were alive during this
time.

We don't know what they

did during

that time.

What their character

was like.

And so again,

this is one of those things where it's

like,

I read through the Bible

and I look

at that one line and I'm like, okay, cool.

He had two wives.

We see wives all the time in the Bible

or multiple wives in the Bible.

Great, cool.

And we continue on, but

again, this is the

origin

of

the

growing

amount of

sin in the world.

And

this

leads to the

destruction

of almost

everyone in the world.

Yeah.

So it's a

couple of things that I see from

and marrying two

wives.

One thing is it's

by nature divisive.

When you have a

family, it's supposed to be

full

of unity.

It's supposed to unite

too.

And

bring others

into that

group.

And by having two

wives, you end up

creating sort

of a competition

and it's just

naturally divisive.

Naturally is going to

bring about

hatred and jealousy

and strife and

anger.

It's just not good

things, right?

I said I had two things, but

I guess maybe

just one

thing.

But I see your point

that

it ties

in, oh,

here's the other point.

It ties in

so

deeply, like sin

ties

into

this man's life so deeply

that it goes to the core

of his family.

Like him

basically saying to

his wives, this is

who I am,

a murderer,

an arrogant man.

And someone

who's

70 times

worse than

our great, great, great,

great grandfather,

Cain.

That was him

telling the

world, announcing

to the world

how

sinful he was.

But it

was

not

even needed to be said

because who he was

to the core was

already like two

times more sinful.

Right,

not saying getting married is

simple, right?

I feel like there's a connection there and
I'm not

doing a good job connecting it.

I mean, yeah.

There's sin there,

for sure.

And it's one of these sins

where you can't really, there's

no take backsies on

it, right?

You make a commitment like

that,

you marry one wife

and

And then you marry another.

like,

oops, no take, no

take back.

So now you've like,

you've committed a covenant

with these two

people.

Um, and now

you've put everybody in

a situation

where everybody

is exposed

to sin,

um, and there's almost

no

chance of redemption

from that

at all.

Like you've cursed your entire

family by doing

this.

So everything from here on out

is going to be

doubly cursed.

Beyond the fact that you're

great, great, great, great

grandpa.

And his entire family line is

cursed.

Probably why they had to build a city

because the ground

would not produce for

the

individual family

units.

So they had to gather together

and like work extra

hard to be able to have

enough

forever.

Yeah.

Maybe.

Um,

I think

they're

going to cap it dude.

That's good.

Oh no,

that portion.

For real?

Yeah.

Will for real.

Okay.

Because what time are we

at an hour and a

half?

Dude,

hour 40 and five.

That's so much more

Bronze age.

I know.

I know.

Iron age.

That's, a whole, that's a whole

other episode.

That's literally what musical instruments,

what the next episode is going to be

about founders of these things.

We're going to talk for another

two hours about that.

Yeah.

That's literally what the

next episode is going to

be

slated

to be about.

Uh,

the next, um,

episode.

A piss.

Sorry.

Piss.

Here we go.

Thank you.

A piss.

No,

can't say it like that.

It's going to be the, you can, uh,

you can keep saying it.

It's, uh, it's going to have

the same effect.

So there we

go.

E pass.

A pass.

Yeah.

That is not racist.

That's me being stupid.

No, the way she said it was racist.

Well, it can't be racist.

She's basically,

she's not white.

Yeah.

I'm in fact not white.

She's mostly

white.

What?

You're mostly white.

Yeah.

I am.

That's true.

Yeah.

You both are Mexican.

Mickael.

Oh, I

am

mostly

Hispanic.

I've been in look.

Wow.

Okay.

Brown privilege.

Chocolate privilege.

Anyways,

segue into the

decay portion of this

podcast.

Um,

I

do

not see a through line

to what

to write

to any natural

questions.

So

yeah,

let's pick up a random decay.

Steven,

do you have any

gifts of

thought

questionage?

Not really.

No,

I

had a thought.

Well, my dad had a thought.

Yeah.

Today.

Um,

which is, it was a crazy

thought because we've had

a thought.

We, we thunk a thought

just like this

one.

Thunk it into the water.

I did.

We thunked it.

Mm hmm.

And it, it, it was

a good thunk.

Um,

and yeah.

We swore

up and down that we would, we

would try it again.

Sorry.

It was a lot of bleeping, a lot of

bleeping.

It was a hard

episode to

edit.

I that think darn word.

Guys, he's a center.

Sorry.

I'm going to say another bad word.

Come down, Mickael.

But I know, I know that really.

So yeah, sorry.

I had to say it.

Herx.

We're going to have to bleep out all

of that.

Yeah.

And that hurts me.

Come down.

Bleep that out

too.

Oh,

goodness gracious.

Stop it.

Mac.

It's like, guys, we got

to be Christians here.

Can we

just

got to cut it out?

Um,

what my dad brought up.

Yes.

Moving on.

Your dad

is

he,

my

dad brought up,

uh, the idea of,

uh, of Jesus.

And is he a time traveler?

Yeah.

Why, why is it?

Wait, what?

Jesus.

I thought we were

talking about your dad.

Well, your father is,

I'm traveling.

Your father is not

a time traveler,

but your father is

a time traveler.

Yeah.

Yes.

Because he believes in

Jesus.

Christians are time travelers.

Ooh.

Hot take.

Let's let's make that statement

true.

How is that?

There's no way to,

Christians are time travelers.

How is that true?

Christians,

uh,

Christians are time travelers.

Because,

because we'll wait.

Oh,

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

God lives lives

outside outside of time.

Yep.

And he kind of

jumps in

at different times.

That's what makes Jesus a

time traveler.

But we also know

about the Holy Spirit,

part of the Trinity.

Okay, yes, he's near where I'm

going.

So thus,

because as

Christians receive the Holy

Spirit,

we were part time traveler.

Does that mean my soul, my

spirit can time

travel?

Lives outside of time.

Holy,

you

just made me

cuss.

The Holy

Spirit

that lives

in us

after Christ,

after Christ, you know,

enacted Holy Spirit time.

The day of Pentecost, what am

I calling it?

You know,

Holy Spirit's in here.

So Christians

are

part

time traveler.

Yeah, absolutely.

So it's the same

concept as

already, but not

yet.

So we already

are time travelers, but

not quite

time travelers.

Yeah,

because our physical bodies hold us

to this time plane.

Got it.

So one day when we die,

we'll be outside

of time.

But technically, if you think about it,
we're

also

there

with the Spirit

in

the, what is it,

tabernacle?

Holy of Holies.

Right now?

No, because that's what happens

to Christians that

die

between now and

the,

what

is it called, just

the Bema Seat?

The what?

Judgment Day,

the Bema Seat.

Bema Seat.

Bema Seat.

Bema Seat.

Bema Seat.

Isn't that the thing?

Pretty sure Bema Seat.

All right, we're bringing up GPT.

I don't know.

My brain did lose what?

But we are bringing up the

GPTs.

Anyways, this is probably

one of

the worst things

that we can say.

Why?

Because we're talking about us being

time travelers.

Yeah, it's interesting.

And it's decay.

The Bema Seat.

I love it.

Hold on, let's see if OBS is

actually picking this up.

It is not.

Let me go ahead and change that, y 'all,

so you can see this.

Let's go ahead and change that, y 'all.

Yeah, y 'all.

Okay, here we go.

That was quick.

All right, ready?

The meeting of Bema.

It's Greek,

meaning race platform, judgment

seat, tribunal,

or award stand.

In the ancient Greek world,

Bema was used for

judges to make legal decisions,

officials to address crowds,

athletic games to give rewards to

winners.

Wow, what a picture.

That's great.

Yeah, because Christians get

rewards.

Yeah.

For the good works that they do because

of the Holy Spirit in them.

And then we lay them down at Jesus'

feet.

Official to address

crowds,

God addressing the entire world,

judges to make legal decisions.

That's the

long

court

process that's gonna

draw

out for,

thank God there's no time in there.

What?

What would it be forever?

I'm really confused as

to what the Bema seat is.

This has to do with

the time -traveling

thing.

Because Christians

will be in

spirit

in the Holy

of Holies, where

Jesus and God,

the Father are right

now.

Only between

basically

the New Testament

and the

time

of the Bema seat

were the Day of Judgment.

The Bema seat,

you said, what the heck is the

Bema seat?

And I think you know what the Bema seat

is, but I brought it up anyways,

because our

audience probably doesn't know what the

Bema seat is.

Okay.

B -E -M -A.

Bema seat is

basically

the judgment seats

that

I

would say Paul refers to.

I was talking about the thing

that they carried around the

desert or whatever.

Oh, the tabernacle.

That's what I said.

Yeah, the tabernacle.

You can't carry a

tabernacle.

We're not time travelers.

But I'm saying.

Because of the

spirit,

the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit

was in the tabernacle.

So,

time

travel.

You can't carry a

tabernacle.

It's not the

tabernacle.

Yeah, no, the tabernacle is the tent.

Yeah,

it's the.

Well, okay, what's the thing

inside?

The thing that you can't.

There we go.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

I don't know if the spirit entwiled the

covenant though.

That's where the spirit

of God was.

That was his throne.

That was his throne, but was

inside of it.

Anyone who walked

inside.

Would die.

Right, because they were in the presence
of

God.

God.

Yes.

Yeah, directly.

Unless they Unless they were.

from the line of Levi

and they

did the whole ritual

in order to go in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's where the spirit of God

was.

Interesting thing.

I think I've said this before, but they
had bells

on the

bottom.

Yeah.

And they would, they had a rope on their

feet.

They stopped.

If the bells stopped, they would drag them
out.

Crazy.

I'm sorry.

I'm going to say that like 50 more

times for all.

Please don't.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's see.

Bemacy is not a

judgment determining heaven or hell

for unbelievers

about punishment.

Oh.

Instead it is believers only about

evaluation of works, about rewards

and loss of reward.

Apparently the great white

throne is for unbelievers

the final judgment.

Whereas the Bemacy is for believers,

rewards for works.

I did not know that.

And this is GPT.

So bear in mind that might

be wrong.

Interesting.

It might be a seed

or might be more wrong.

So that was

a great,

great thing.

It was beautiful.

But you're talking about whether

or not Jesus was a time

traveler.

Yeah.

Jesus was a time traveler.

Because of the

weather

patterns.

That's what I was thinking.

The weather patterns.

That's what I was thinking.

No.

Why is the question of

Jesus being a time traveler coming up?

I missed your last part.

I'm pretty sure he says that.

Why is the topic of Jesus

being a time traveler coming

up?

Because my dad asked.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No.

But what brings

that

to mind?

What makes you,

him think that or anybody think that?

Yeah.

So to frame it up.

So God,

the father,

or just as most people

think of him as God,

has special powers

as God.

One of them being outside of

time.

Sure.

Is that a power or is that

just a state of being?

It's an innate state

of his

being God.

Okay.

Yeah.

So you call that,

I don't

know, I call

it omnipresence, but there

should be another word for it because

like outside of time,

omnistasis.

Omnistasis.

Oh, that is a word.

I don't know if that's the right word, but
it sounds

cool.

But at the same time, God

is everywhere in

stasis.

God is everywhere

physically

and

everywhere in time.

At the same time.

Right?

Or is that not true?

I mean, he is definitely everywhere in

the universe.

Everywhere at once, all the

time.

Yeah.

Like the movie.

That's everywhere.

That's everywhere.

Everything all at

once.

That's not correct.

But no,

this is good.

We should not say the real title of the

movie because then it's

all look it up and find it and watch

it.

Don't watch it.

It's a bad movie.

It's not the

idea.

It's not the same

idea of God being

everywhere.

Yeah, it's not all at once.

No, not at all.

It's so

we are

unable to conceptualize

that idea.

Yeah.

We can think of it in

allegorical or

analogous ways, but

there's no way we can

wrap our puny little minds

around it.

So God is omnipresent.

Apparently, omnistasis.

Point in it.

Put it on a literal point.

Coin in the.

Oh,

okay.

Join your coin in the end.

For those who are

in stasis, could you

describe quinonia and

what that is?

For those that are in

stasis,

quinonia means community.

In El Greco.

El Greco.

Yeah.

That seems racist.

And

if I

were to say quinonia,

that doesn't make any sense.

No, it

doesn't.

Join your coin in the end.

Find the coin in the around

you.

Yeah.

Join up today.

Sounds like Salvation Army or something.

Anywho,

God has these special innate

abilities

because he's God.

Yeah.

And they're special

because we don't have it.

Right.

One of them being

omnipresence.

Another is all knowing

or omniscience.

And I'm sure there's others.

The reason this matters is

because the Bible

says that Jesus

is

both

holy man

and fully God.

So not half man, half God,

which that's blessed me.

Holy.

So 100 % man

and 100

%

God.

Not a mode of God.

Not a mode.

That's modalism.

Yeah.

That's also.

What is it called outside

of left me?

Heresy.

Heresy.

or Or just

wrong.

Yeah.

Just some fancy ways of

saying wrong.

Dead wrong.

Like dead, dead

wrong.

Like you're going to

die and go to hell.

It's a lie.

Oh,

tell them you're going to die and go

to hell.

Yeah.

It's dead wrong that way.

Yeah.

What?

It's hella dead wrong,

literally.

Anyways, tell them about the meme you told

me about.

Meme.

Yeah.

How they

found the new Christianity

that's less

judgmental, a little bit

more acceptance.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

I just saw it was a

what's that

that

parody.

Is it Babylon B?

Babylon B.

It just said

like

a

priest

founds

a new

like

branch of Christianity.

That's less

judgmental and

easier to get

into or whatever.

Like more acceptance.

And it's like, oh,

no,

wait, that's just saying

again.

And like,

crazy.

So fair, though.

So true.

Goodness gracious,

dude.

Anywho.

Yeah.

So Jesus

is a hundred percent God.

And the reason I was explaining

these.

These attributes of

God is

to

bring up if

Jesus is a hundred

percent God,

that has to mean that

he's omniscient

and

omnipresent

among

all the other things.

I know that Jesus.

Big word for

when his

omniscience.

And a lot of other

powers.

I

mean,

we could just say all powerful.

Right.

He for went that because

he just

decided to

live

from

his

humanness

in certain situations.

Yeah.

In time.

Yeah.

Not separating from God.

Not not being less God,

but just

choosing not to

know

as

the human.

He was right.

And it's still a really tricky

thing to wrap your head around.

But there's instances of this

happening.

What I thought.

So you're also going to bring

up how there are.

Christophanes.

Yep.

Which would are Christophanes

in

theory.

Christophanes are

basically

Jesus in

a different time.

In a different time.

One

we think or

it is speculated would

be.

Melchizedek.

That is a common.

Ideas that could have been Jesus.

You remind me who

is the deck was.

Melchizedek

is

a

is a

ruler and

was a ruler

who's

briefly mentioned.

Yeah.

As someone that I

believe

David

had

interacted with

could be horribly wrong

about that.

He gave him

some kind

of offering

or something like that

and some

other ruler.

And

that's

really the only mention in

the Old Testament.

But then they are mentioned

in Hebrews.

Something referred

to as the line.

Melchizedek.

Who

was

Melchizedek?

Melchizedek was king

of Salem priest

of God Most High.

A man who blessed

Abraham.

His story appears in Genesis

14 18 through

20.

Then Melchizedek king

of Salem brought out

bread and wine.

He was priest of God

Most High and

he blessed Abram.

Yeah, that is a Christophany.

Abram later

Abraham then

gave him a tenth

of everything.

I was extremely wrong.

He was not David.

It was not David.

But also why would

Abraham

give a tenth

to this

Melchizedek priest

of Most

High?

Also,

was

there other priests of the Most High?

Was God doing religion

before Israel?

So his name

means

Malek,

which is king and

Tzidek.

Righteousness.

King of righteousness.

He was also the king of

Salem, which is widely

believed to be ancient

Jerusalem.

King of righteousness,

his name, king of Salem,

king of peace.

This symbolism

becomes important later in the New

Testament.

Why is he so mysterious?

Melchizedek appears suddenly

in Genesis and then

disappears.

The Bible gives no information about

his parents, his birth, his birth,

his death, is his lineage.

This is unusual because...

the Old Testament usually

gets detailed

genealogies.

Even when it's not necessary.

Or feels necessary.

Psalm 110

mentions him

again.

King David.

Oh my gosh.

a is This long ways from there.

You were a priest

forever in the

order

of

Melchizedek.

So Melchizedek

came first.

So maybe this

means King of

Righteousness rather than

just actually

Melchizedek.

But maybe this verse

became very important

for understanding

Jesus's

priesthood.

Yeah.

Explanation in the New Testament is in

Hebrews chapters five through seven

explains Melchizedek

in detail.

It says he was King of

Righteousness,

King of Peace,

without recorded father or

mother, without

genealogy,

a priest forever.

Symbolically.

Hebrews uses him as

a prototype.

Oh.

Christophany of Jesus.

I love how it says prototype.

Yeah.

It's interesting.

What would Christians usually

say?

Uh,

yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, why he matters.

Uh, the Jewish

priesthood normally

came from the tribe

of Levi.

True.

But Melchizedek was a priest

before.

The New Testament

argues that Jesus's priesthood

is like

Melchizedek's

not the

Levitical one.

Is like Melchizedek's

not the Levitical one.

Meaning it is eternal.

It does not depend on

genealogy.

It comes directly.

So you're saying if,

if Melchizedek

was a

Christophany.

Mm hmm.

The first

priest

of the Most High was Jesus.

Mm hmm.

And the last priest of the Most

High was Jesus.

Is Jesus.

Yeah.

Holy holy dude.

Yeah.

He's like, Hey, I'm gonna sneak in

here because

I need to.

Because I am this and I'm

going to prove it by

being it

first.

Oh my god.

Literally first.

Yeah.

Holy cow.

Yeah.

Uh, we can,

we can

unpack that

a whole lot more

when you get to Hebrews.

Uh,

in 25

,000 years.

Well, he talks about him in

Genesis 14.

That's true.

So we'll, get to it when

we come back.

Uh,

after Noah, after

Ecclesiastes.

Yeah.

We'll definitely talk about it.

So that'll be like episode

or something.

I'm like, man,

we've mapped out a tongue.

Yeah.

Have we mapped out to

Abraham?

No.

And how many do we have mapped out now?

I think we only have like

26.

Including the ones we've published.

Yeah.

At this point.

Yeah.

Okay.

Um, anyways,

little side, little, little

excitement there.

Uh,

but that's wild.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What a mind bender.

Yeah.

That's something that I've

probably heard about.

I, well, I do remember my dad talking

about this, but it

just did not

land with

me at the time.

Like this is like, have you

watched the, the movies?

Uh, well, specifically the

first one, uh, well, some of

them.

Good.

Let me actually tell you thinking about,

um,

the, uh, uh, national

treasure movies.

Yeah.

This gives me national treasure

vibes.

Hmm.

Right.

I don't remember national treasure.

They steal the, they steal

the, uh, the declaration

of

independence and

there's a map

on the back of it that they

need in order to get

to, um, this,

uh, like

Benjamin Franklin

glasses thing so that they

can see the rest of the map.

Um, and it points

them to a church.

Um, and underneath

the church is,

uh, basically a

burial place.

Um, but also like this

giant, like,

uh,

like imagine a well

that you can't see the

bottom of it.

Um, and

it's

massive.

It's not a well, like it's, it's

like

at

least 200 feet

across, uh, in the

end.

Yeah.

And a circle with like

stairs,

rickety rotting

wood going down

to the bottom.

Yeah.

And this one dude

falls through

and falls

to his death and we just, we don't

hear him hit anything.

His scream just

fades

out.

Right.

So very, very, very, very,

deep.

Right.

Then they walk

down these rickety stairs,

um,

to

this

room

that's sort of carved out of

the, the side

of this

endless

deep.

And it goes into this,

uh,

thank you for sniffing into the mic.

No, that was great.

Um, how did so much

depth,

um,

there's like, they face a problem,

they get through the problem.

They eventually found the room with all
the

gold.

Yeah.

Um, but like the

process of getting to that

point, um,

is just like

mind bender after

mind bender.

after mind bender and

it's like

you

While you're watching the

movie, which

you've never watched this.

I have seen it.

Yeah, do you remember it now?

No

Okay, we're gonna have to watch this on

Tuesday.

They were bad movies.

No, they were not

we're watching we're watching

Okay, no, no, we're

watching a

Actual mind bender

on it's called

it's called the

prestige and

you're gonna forget about that

I will

not ever

dude.

Nicholas Cage is an

awful actor

Hey

For

those

listening and I just

full

rage quit

just tackled a

fan

But then my my

court that

is attached to my headphones

The

court

said

Bungee jumping.

Yes, please

We're gonna steal

the map

Yeah,

we are okay take

your comment back.

It's Nicholas Cage.

It's a truth

is a

horrible actor Yes, but

he's so

good and national treasure

despite

he's no of his

bad Really good at playing

himself.

Yeah, and you need that kind of

nutcase

To sell that movie

and it's so good

dude

It is it's alright.

You can watch it again.

It's not it's not so

bad that it's like Oh, I could

never watch it again.

It's just like I don't want

to

Maybe you just maybe

you're in a bad mood when you

first watched it

or maybe

I had

standards for films

You

know

anyways,

what does this have to

do with I was

saying that it has a like

that that vibe.

Okay.

Do you like Indiana Jones?

I have only seen

like one or two movies.

I might have to kill you

Daniel

But Harrison Ford

on the other hand is fantastic.

Yeah.

Yeah, duh

Which Indiana Jones

and are they at

first school?

Okay.

Oh That one sucks

Well, I'm gonna have to bleep that one

out

Said sucks

sucks.

Oh, yeah

Adventure movie

treasure

Whatever else

Mind -bending mind -blowing to

you go what

is the movie?

Cuz I need to connect on a movie

level with you Well, I don't know

what the point you're trying to make it I

will make the point when you

give me the movie I

don't I don't you're

asking the

person that can

hardly think of

names of basic

things

On the fly

you suck Steven

movie,

please

Tomb Raider

Tomb Raider

I don't watch that one.

We should watch that one

Tuesdays.

All right.

Let's watch the movie guys

my points

Uh -huh.

Shut up.

I'm ready

Maybe I just won't tell

you

Great I'm so

excited and

you just crushed my

soul

Asking you to continue your

point.

I know no saying that's such a

my choice was

bad

you suck

So

Here's the point,

uh -huh I

don't

need your soulless eyes

looking into you're gonna try

to steal my soul

you had you don't have any

Yours

I'm gonna

pull

my hat lower so you can't see

my eyeballs

the point is

Dang

Might

just have to cut out this

entire

But

point is

The pure

excitement that I

feel watching

that movie

Where the

possibility that

the history of

my country

has this

crazy like

Undercurrents of lore

that is

so detailed and

so like

conspiracy but

Illuminati confirmed.

Yeah, but

like yeah, but like not

evil.

Yeah doesn't lead the evil at

least the good.

Mmm

it's

The same vibe that I get

from milk is it that's

okay because milk is

a deck where the heck does he come

from Yeah,

and it's definitely not a bad

discovery

Yeah, never heard of

this man.

Anyways, so

Christophany is because

they exist

Yeah,

and I even

sometimes so we've confirmed

Christophany success.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah in theory,

is there any way we could

prove that Christophanis

exists?

Does Paul or any

other New Testament writers say

this person

that was mentioned in Old

Testament was

Jesus?

Mmm.

I mean,

not

explicitly.

Yeah, I don't think so either.

So there's no way that we could

prove it.

But John says

that the

word was at the beginning

and the word is

Jesus.

Is Jesus, yeah.

In a sense, well, I mean,

yes, a

Christophany,

but not in the form of a

human being.

Untrue?

Because

Jesus

is fully

man, fully God.

But Jesus

became

fully man.

Jesus slash

God is not.

Hold on.

What's that?

The fan that you

knocked over.

It's angry.

It's angry.

It wants you to

apologize.

Hey,

look over there.

Yeah.

Over there.

You see that?

It's a manmade

fan.

It's a wild man.

I'm gonna go poke it with

a stick.

Ah,

it's angry.

My number one fan.

Sorry.

That's a fluffy

skit for you.

God,

from what we understand,

is not

physical.

He's a spirit.

Yes.

He does manifest

physically,

but

is

not, in

essence,

physical.

He creates the physical.

So

now

that brings

up

my

take on

this.

Jesus.

Okay.

Wait, Actually,

hold back.

The spirit of God

dwelled in the

tabernacle, right?

Okay.

And

we know

that the word

is Jesus.

So we call

this

Bible,

the word God,

in a sense,

a manifestation.

I've even said this before.

A manifestation of Jesus,

of God.

It's God's word.

Yeah.

What if,

okay.

And the Holy Spirit

indwells all

Christians.

Okay.

Here's the thing.

You're gonna blow my mind here.

What?

Jesus, in a

sense,

this physical

body

is

more seen

as an

avatar.

But that'd be heretical.

It is Jesus,

right?

Because

it is a man.

Holy man.

Holy man.

But it's kind of the

same

as

the spirit

dwelling

in us.

No.

Because let me ask you a question.

Does Jesus's

body

become

a part of the Trinity?

I think so, yeah.

Does it?

His physical body,

even though God

is

spirit.

I mean,

his body would

be in heaven.

Yeah.

Because he literally went into

heaven.

But that

doesn't mean Jesus

as

a

concept, if you will.

Not a concept, he's a...

But I'm saying

Jesus as a concept

because we're saying that

he is the word.

Yeah.

Right.

And he is

man.

And he is

spirit

as well.

Right.

So,

conceptually,

and even the spirit

has taken on

multiple forms.

Right.

So,

what I'm trying to get

at is that

Jesus being

part of the whole

spirit concept

of

the being of

God

could be a time dream.

In that, because

God is outside of time,

I mean,

and I mean,

we

don't...

I don't think we literally have Jesus

right here.

But like,

it is a

living word.

Jesus no.

Yeah, is right here

because your Bible's here

is, I would

say, wrong.

But Jesus is God and

Jesus is with

us.

And we have the Holy Spirit

because of Jesus.

Yes.

And it says that God

is

wherever

we are.

I believe there is a place

that

Paul talks

about Jesus

indwelling

Christians

to.

But But it might just be

the reference of...

the spirit of

Jesus

into building

Christians.

I don't think we'll ever understand that.

One thing that I wanted

to

point

out and add possibly

is

that

is

it possible,

I've heard it said that...

You have heard it said.

I've heard it said.

You've heard it said, but I

say to you.

I'm smarter than

these M .Div

people.

So these people that...

No, I'm not.

So I'm just parroting

these M .Divs,

which for

everybody else has no idea

what M .Div means.

Masters of Divinity,

basically a Christian version

of a

professional

license.

Mm -hmm.

Yeah.

Mm -hmm.

Yeah.

Um...

They did it fine.

Um...

So...

What I heard from

these M .Divs is

Jesus

took on bodily

form

when

he was born.

Mm -hmm.

Um...

So his spirit

became

body.

Mm.

Or obtained

body at that point.

Okay.

And so

that means

at that

point,

the God -man

was

tied to time.

Mm -hmm.

In a way.

But still being...

Part of...

Yeah.

He didn't...

Still being...

He was separated

from...

So as a

baby

fetus.

Mm -hmm.

Yes.

The baby baby.

The baby baby.

The fetus baby.

The baby before

born

baby.

It's like chai tea.

Tea tea.

I never realized that.

That's all there is.

What kind of tea do Same want?

you thing with matcha.

Matcha is tea.

Oh, for real?

Yeah.

I have a matcha.

So if you have a matcha

chai tea,

it's a tea tea.

I really love tea, man.

I want it three times over.

I really want all the

tea.

All the tea.

That'd be kind of gross, actually.

It's actually pretty good.

Matcha chai?

Yeah.

All right.

I'll give it a chai.

We'll give it a tea.

Give me a tea.

Give me a tea.

I'll give it a good college chai.

Give me a tea.

Tea is so stupid.

I didn't realize what you were doing.

I need a third

name for tea.

There probably is one.

That tea is completely

different.

That's funny.

Okay.

So Jesus took on a

body then, but as a

baby baby,

you were

saying that he could

travel through time still,

but he just chose not

to.

Because he wasn't separate from

God.

Yeah.

He was fully God.

Yeah.

And the only way

that Jesus

began

to

be formed as a human being

was the Holy Spirit

conceiving in

Mary,

Jesus.

Now,

that's another

topic of

is

Jesus part Mary,

but fully God?

Or is Jesus

totally separate

from the genetic line of Adam?

Well, the body,

because Jesus is

spirit,

the body

would

be

part Mary.

Because it has to be.

Has to come from...

Just has to be made

by God.

Oh, and the thing I said

earlier

about

coming

from the line of Joseph,

that doesn't make any sense.

Why?

Because he didn't come from Joseph.

No, he didn't.

Joseph was not a part

of that deal.

So Mary.

It's from the line of Joseph.

Well, no Jews

did

genealogies

by women.

We men.

We men.

Yeah.

But

I've

heard

arguments for both sides

that Jesus

was fully man

via Mary,

fully God via the Spirit.

I've also heard it,

both great arguments.

I've got to lean towards this

one though.

That

Jesus

in

his human form

was fully given

by God.

The reason being,

man

descending

from Adam

had

that curse carried in the

blood.

So So man

being born...

of Adam's blood

was

cursed with

sin,

and we know that Jesus was

not cursed with sin.

So how could he be

born of Mary?

And why

couldn't

God just have used

the

son of Joseph and

Mary

instead of

having to

basically

have

the spirit conceive instead?

Because he had to be

completely perfect.

So there couldn't be any

tainting of any

human blood.

But how could he be fully

man and fully

God?

Because God created man in

the first place.

So he created a new

line

of humans,

fully human,

in Jesus

in

Mary's womb

to

be the vessel

of Jesus'

spirit.

So before Jesus

was formed in Mary's

womb,

Jesus did not have a body,

but he may have

shown up in

bodies.

But the body that is his

was

formed in Mary's womb,

rose again

in a

new body.

He's had two bodies.

But here's the question.

Did Jesus show up

in his

new body

or his

Jesus day

body?

Jesus by day,

Melchizedek by night.

Did he show up

looking like Jesus?

Or did Jesus show up looking like

Melchizedek?

If Jesus

was,

yeah, he would know,

didn't, yo,

hold on.

Smells like burrito.

That's a weird comment.

That's Mika.

Wow.

Ladies and gentlemen, this segment has

been random

things from the Halo.

So you remember

the thing where they were

on the mountain top

experience?

I forget the exact thing.

So Jesus went up to the top of the
mountain.

Oh, that is tight.

It's a wall.

What is that?

It's got fliers on

it.

It

looks

like the peas, those who

will.

Yeah.

Lapis?

Anywho.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now the camera can see it.

Awesome.

Love it.

Cool.

So that mountain top

where Jesus went with Peter

and John, I think it was.

And Moses

showed up, Abraham showed

up and

Elijah.

Elijah.

Thank you.

Do you think Abraham

was like, wait a minute.

You look an awful lot

like Melchizedek.

Well, we

don't

know what they said.

You're

looking a lot

like in time.

What was

his name?

That one dude

that I gave 10 %

of everything.

What was his name?

Milk?

Yeah.

It doesn't really make any sense.

I lived a few

generations

ago.

To say the least.

Anyway,

that would be interesting if Muck has a

deck.

That would be an interesting.

Jesus or vice versa.

Yeah.

Right.

Or if any Christophany,

it looks like Jesus.

Yeah.

Because there's other Christophanies
besides

Muck.

But

here's another

thing though.

Moses.

Saw the face of God.

Through, yeah.

Was that a

Christophany or was that the spirit of

God passing by?

Well,

it talks about his

back.

It does.

Yeah.

He saw his

back.

Right.

And

through

people.

Through people.

Through a peephole.

Through a peephole.

Of rack.

Of a rack.

Of rock.

Of rock.

Roke.

Roke.

Roke.

Roke.

And.

Decade.

Welcome to

Decade.

When we make hardy ducks

and we are very dumb

and tired.

Did a fine.

Did a fine.

Yes.

No.

No.

It isn't bad.

Throw it

away.

We're on drugs.

be have to You there.

You have to.

You are not.

You would be if you

beat us.

Become a

patreon.

But we are

begging.

Here's the thing.

So if he saw his back,

his

physicality of

backage.

Okay.

That would.

Would that be.

Jesus.

The deserve.

deserve.

Americans Americans

Americans Um,

Americans would that mean

the boys

back?

Here's the question.

Here's the question.

If

the

boys back is in town,

the man, the,

the beings back,

the

back is in

town.

Hey all back

is back in town.

Back

and

back and back.

Um,

every time.

If, if God, if

God

manifests

as

physical human

person,

is it always Jesus?

That's the question we should be asking.

Yeah, that's what I was wondering.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think the answer is yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

Because the only person

of the Trinity that

is described

as

being fully

man is Jesus.

So you're saying about the spirit.

That's true.

Yeah.

If Melchizedek

was,

was

Christophany, it

had to be Jesus.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In being,

in physical being.

Yeah.

That's nuts.

Yeah.

Do you think he's

still had the scars?

No.

No.

Why not?

So you said still.

Yeah.

But Melchizedek came

before

Jesus.

but No, think about it.

Jesus is a time traveler.

But he's also, he also

didn't receive a physical

body.

He did not receive a physical body

until he was born.

Sure.

And he did not have a new body that

could go to heaven,

a non -time realm

until he had his

new body.

Interesting.

Which the new body we can

confirm

because

doubting Thomas

saw it and so did

all the other

disciples.

So we have our little

Trumpian

here,

Trump representation,

building a wall.

Building

a

wall.

So this is California folks.

That's California.

All the depravity.

So decayed.

Wow.

But we have

confirmed proof

that Jesus had,

yeah, that Jesus had

the scars in

his hands and his side

on his feet.

After he resurrected.

In his new body that

is able to

go to heaven.

But that was for purpose.

What would be the purpose of Melchizedek

having scarps?

It wouldn't

be.

There would be no purpose.

Yeah.

There would be.

Continuity?

There would be, it would have,

I mean, he could have worn makeup or

something.

I don't know.

But like,

I mean, maybe a long clothes.

It's not like,

it's not like,

like, you can't wear long sleeves.

Yeah.

Tattoos.

Right.

Okay.

But in this case, scars.

Interesting.

So.

So you think he would have,

but that wouldn't make any sense.

It doesn't make sense that Jesus

before scars

would have

left

the

time assignment that he

was in.

Even I think.

To be Melchizedek.

I think even.

It would make sense after.

What do you think he

was?

Here's the thing.

If you're outside of

time.

Yeah.

In your God and you can form

whatever freaking body

that you want.

He would

like

it.

It's fine if he just

forms

the

same body,

especially

in the timeline

before Jesus

ever was born.

No, no, but she'll talk about

time.

Yeah.

So before doesn't matter.

That's what I'm saying to you.

No, no.

That's what I'm saying to you.

After Jesus died and went

to heaven.

Uh -huh.

Could he not have gone back and

been Melchizedek?

I mean, because there's no such

thing as time in heaven.

But like exactly.

He wouldn't have gone back.

He would have already been.

He would have been back,

but he would have gone

back.

In our point of view, he would have gone.

Time travel.

It's not

that he

wouldn't back.

It's that

in our

timeline, he was

there and

then he was there

again in the future.

Yeah.

But

because

Jesus the Spirit did

not have a body formed

until it was formed in the womb

of Mary,

which ties him to a

certain point in history.

Okay.

He has to be tied to

time, which gives us a

time -based

framework, meaning

he goes back in time.

His body.

But that's not how it works.

All of time works

on the death

and resurrection

of Jesus.

Okay.

BC,

AD,

the year of our Lord,

Hanim, Deah, or whatever.

Before Christ,

right?

Or whatever people want to change

it to.

If we change

time to pivot

on Jesus,

Why why can't I say that

Jesus went

back

to

be Melchizedek?

Where did he come from?

He doesn't say,

when did he go?

What's that song?

Stop it.

Get out of here.

No,

we only allow

third types of, we

do not know

where Melchizedek came

from, where he went,

what he was doing.

All we know is he was

- Are you saying that

Jesus caught an eye Joe?

Maybe.

First he was Melchizedek.

All we know

is

- Before that we saw his

back,

then he became Jesus and now

he's caught an eye Joe.

Where did you come from?

Where did you go?

Where did you come from?

Jesus and eye Joe.

I don't know.

Oh my goodness gracious.

That's a result of all of I've ever heard

of.

That was a decayed bit for

sure.

Beautiful.

The only thing that perfumed

that was Jesus.

The only thing that's gonna perform,

perform.

The only thing that's gonna perform that.

Perfume.

Yep.

Let's grab Mickael.

French.

Perfume.

I thought you

were

cowboy.

Perfume?

Western.

Perfume is

Francais.

It is half -form.

Half -form.

Sipute.

Oui.

Oui.

I don't know what sipute means.

I don't like the word whatever.

Or phrase.

Anyways.

Back.

To the timeline.

Do not grieve.

Back to the future?

Right.

Why did they call that movie Back to the

Future

when they went to the past?

Because they had to go back

to the future.

Because they got lost in the past.

Because they went

into the future.

Yep.

No, they went into the past in the first

movie.

You dummy.

No, no,

They went back.

Yep.

To the past.

Yep.

So why didn't they call it Back to the
Past?

Because they had to go back to the

future.

Because they got lost in the past

and they needed to go back to the

future.

Look,

yesterday is today.

Is tomorrow.

Is tomorrow.

Shut up.

I knew what you were gonna say.

I just still don't

understand it, okay?

Mika still, you broke Mika.

That's all I know.

Mickael, let me read

this.

I

got

that from

SpongeBob.

Am I crazy?

Is Jesus a time traveler and could

he have gone back

to the past?

Okay, wait,

In a very real sense.

Can you go somewhere that you're already

at?

Yes.

Yeah,

called crazy.

What do you mean?

Can you go somewhere?

Could Jesus go back to?

No, no, no.

Just completely separate.

Can you go somewhere

that you're

already at?

No.

Yeah, if you could be

outside of time, yeah.

No, no, no.

Forget all that.

Can you go somewhere

that

you're already

at?

No, because

you

have the moments and the

past.

You're already there.

Yeah.

You've arrived.

So you can't go to where you've arrived.

Yes, you can.

If you.

If you left there.

But I'm saying if you left already,

if you're there.

If left you time.

No, no,

If you're already there,

you can't go

there.

Right.

Yep.

So go back there.

Wait, wait.

Yeah, you can go back

there.

Yeah.

If you leave.

But, but you have to leave

at some point.

Wait, wait.

God is

everywhere all at

once.

Yep.

I knew we were going to get there

eventually.

Thus,

Jesus couldn't, Jesus

didn't leave.

Yep.

He did.

He left for heaven.

Jesus's physical body

left.

But because Jesus

is God and God doesn't

leave anywhere that he's

at, which is everywhere.

Hold on.

Remember Jesus has a

physical

tie

to.

That's what I mean.

He has a tie to physics.

But Jesus

is

part of the Trinity.

And if he's part of the Trinity and he's

never separated from the Trinity

and the Trinity is

everywhere all at once.

That means

that

he's always everywhere.

All at once, all the time.

All at once, all the

time.

But

here's the

thing.

We don't see the Trinity

physically.

We've only seen

Jesus physically.

So the

physicality

of Jesus

is

tied to time.

But

Jesus

in his

entirety of

spirit

is dwelling

with God,

the Trinity,

all three persons,

everywhere all at once, inside and

outside of time.

That's because

his

spirit is,

what

would you call it?

You can't untangle it

from the spirit of God, the

Father and the spirit, the

Holy Spirit.

Oh, Oh,

and the full person.

of God was

indwelling Jesus.

So that would be...

Jesus is the person.

If Jesus,

if Jesus,

the entirety of

Jesus was

capable, the man,

was capable of being

outside

of omnipresence,

outside of

one

point in time,

choosing not to be

omnipresent, choosing not to be

omnipowerful,

omniscient, all

-knowing.

That would mean that the

entirety of God

would be

inside of time rather

than outside of time.

And that is not

possible.

Understanding the Trinity fully

is impossible.

So modalism

or

the

heresy of versions of

God, like three

separate persons.

So He has to

be everywhere.

Yeah.

All at once.

So, but

what's not heresy

is there

is three persons.

They are separate, distinct,

but they are all at the

same time

one.

Don't ask.

You're not going to understand.

You're an unbeliever in

here.

You think we're crack

heads and you're calling the police.

Yes.

Which there's a minor

here.

We might be.

Crazy.

Well,

what

is it?

Jesus is either Lord

Lunatic or

liar.

Which I think

technically if He's a lunatic,

He's a liar.

But He doesn't know He's lying.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's the difference.

So He's either Lord or He's a lunatic.

Yeah.

If you boil it, if you want to boil

it down.

Yeah.

But that's neither here nor

there.

So Jesus.

But Jesus is everywhere.

Nice segue back.

Jesus,

I still is

linked to

physics because of His

physical body, which He

created.

He being God,

fully God.

And Jesus because Jesus

is God -man.

So Jesus

created Himself.

Yes.

I'm having too much fun with

this.

Look, look, you can't go anywhere

you're already at.

Yeah.

So if you're crazy,

you can't go

crazy.

So going

requires time

at

requires physics

and time.

And God is

being so He

already is.

Shut up.

That's English.

Stop speaking English.

It's true though.

You're using English, Mickael.

I know

English is abusing me.

Let's be clear.

But yes,

you

are too.

So Amen.

And a woman.

And a

cousin.

And a

typical.

That's us.

Yeah.

And a Steven.

Hey, I

hate you.

I hate I you.

hate you.

How do you know?

I

hate you on

a level that it should not

be humanly possible.

It is an otherworldly

kind of hate.

I think it's righteous.

And I knew it was going to

happen.

That's insane.

So Mika is on the same wavelength.

She just doesn't speak.

I don't speak.

I just know.

The only person that wasn't

was Steven.

Yeah.

Steven's here.

We just had a little mind

tie.

Steven.

Could

you

offer us

a

monologue?

A two minute monologue.

Of anything and

everything.

All at once.

All at once.

That you desire at this

very moment.

could It be anything.

Two minutes.

Two minutes on the timer.

Hold on.

Hold on.

Hold on.

This is fascinating.

Starting.

You have three seconds.

One second.

No.

No.

That's a beautiful.

Do all the talk.

Anyways.

You're not here.

You're not the one speaking.

She is the one speaking.

Squeaking.

Wow.

Everything's stuff, Steven.

Do you.

Do you guys are already

going?

Do you have any thoughts

on this time

travel?

Hold on.

Hold on.

Hold on.

Let me finish my stuff, dude.

You never let me.

I completely forgot that you were

even speaking.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

So Jesus

being

physical.

Yes.

And then you said that.

That the, the,

the, you know, it

requires.

Time and

place.

But as soon as you leave time

and place and go to

heaven,

you can literally be

anywhere all at

once,

multiple

times.

You can be anywhere,

anytime.

That still goes

with his full

godhood,

joined with his full

manhood.

So he's still a hundred percent god,

still a hundred percent man,

and it does not

cause any

problems because

he's the outside of time.

So he can be

anywhere all at once.

The only time he

didn't do that is when

he decided

not

to

use

his full

godhood

during

his

time on

earth.

So

when

he died,

rose again,

and then went to

heaven,

he went back

in

time and creation

because

if

time is just

another part

of creation,

we can imagine

it's

a literal

for

a being who creates

time.

It's to us,

a chair,

right?

Time to God

is to

us a chair.

Okay.

Right.

Sure.

Because we can create a chair.

We can use a chair.

Okay.

We can see the chair.

We can explore the

chair at any point

on the chair.

It's a chair random,

but I'm liking this.

Jesus chose to

go

back

to the bottom of the

chair

and

play out

Melchizedek.

Okay.

And why that doesn't

change time

and why it

doesn't create time loops

and paradoxes

and

like

a new timeline

is because

he did it already

because

that's

how

time works and he

did it already.

Do you think that

when

God

made,

when God

became fully man,

fully God,

because

he's outside

of time and he knows

the

future,

do you think

at

any point

he

could

have thought

of

a nice little 80

song.

Let's get physical.

I don't think though, because

that's a hard

song to redeem.

Yeah.

Beautiful.

Because

I,

anytime something,

some type of

physical activity is going

on.

I'm like,

we're

going to get copyright strikes.

Wow.

This has truly been

a decay

bit.

No, this is,

I'm so glad that we talked about

this because

it's truly as

fascinating as I thought

it would be.

It is fascinating.

The fact that you tied Melchizedek into

this changed everything.

I love the, oh my gosh.

Holy cow, dude.

Yeah.

I,

for sure.

I'm convinced now.

Here's the thing that

Jesus,

so Jesus, I know you

want to talk, but Jesus,

being God

has

the power to do what I just said.

Yeah.

And it would be a shrug.

It would be nothing.

Yeah.

But also it screws with our

minds so much

that wouldn't that be

hilarious?

It's like, God

awesome.

Here's the thing.

Look, Jesus

showed up to two

guys on the road.

Okay.

And he just

was like, Hey,

let me tell you stuff

about

you.

Like, no, like the Bible.

And then he disappears.

What are we talking about?

After he, after he reveals

who he is.

Oh, after his resurrection.

Yeah.

Okay.

Got it.

And

look,

you know, what kind of

exclusionary statement that you just

made there.

Sorry, Steven.

He didn't mean that

when he said,

look,

I don't know when he'll learn,

but maybe,

maybe never

make it

better.

That's wild.

Wow.

Kindness, Mickael.

That's crazy.

Inclusion.

Okay.

Sorry.

Everybody can look.

I'm a racist.

Yeah.

He's a racist.

Yeah.

No, you suck.

Yeah.

I should accept that.

I'm a racist because this is a running

joke.

Okay.

Look,

if Malchezzek

was chilling,

right?

This high priest dude

just chilling

with Abram.

Like,

I imagine

he didn't just

pop in.

No,

pop by, come on.

Jesus is

probably like he

was walking

around.

He was talking to people.

I mean, he knows how people

are.

People aren't, they're like, oh, this

dude is walking around like who the heck

is this?

And he starts talking to them,

says some random things that

probably influenced the rest of

their lives.

Jesus.

And then they just walks

away and like, oh, that was cool.

Like he was a nice guy.

And then he shows up

with Abram and then disappears.

Like, I just

imagine every single

time,

if like,

okay, I had this thought as we were

talking about

earlier when we were talking about this.

Like,

yes,

I know Jesus is coming

again.

Right?

The big

comment.

But like

angels.

You just call it the big coming.

I love that.

You usually call it the second coming.

I heard the big

comment.

The big comment

in the sky.

The big coming.

We need T -shirts.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Bro.

I hate this so much.

be gonna You're canceled.

No, no,

no,

Was the chintzy phrase,

when you like

confirm

you're gonna go somewhere?

Like drop by,

definitely not drop by.

Come through.

Come through.

Come through.

The big coming.

I know what you're trying to

say, but I can't think of

it right now.

I don't know.

We'll figure it out.

We'll put it on T -shirts.

Anyways.

But.

Yes.

Ha ha ha.

No.

Ha ha ha ha.

No.

Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha Um,

no,

no, no.

Ha ha.

Stop it.

There's a part of me that's

like, okay,

Jesus could

just

be like, you know what?

I kind of want

to chill

on

earth.

Like just

pop in.

It doesn't matter.

I could be like, I imagine

that the angels do that.

You know,

they

physical,

physical size,

and then they just disappear.

They never existed.

Whatever.

Just to have one

conversation or do one

thing, you know, it's part of the

spiritual warfare thing.

I'm like, what if Jesus did

that?

Just cause not just

cause he can, but

like, it would be holy.

It would be a bit.

It'd be so funny.

I mean,

But also it'd be so awesome.

Yeah.

It's like Godson.

Godson.

Yo,

you heard about Godson.

Never got some.

He's pretty Godson.

He's got some.

Hey,

you got some.

He's got some.

Yes.

I'm really some.

Yeah.

You got some.

I got

some.

Godson.

Yeah.

Godson.

Yeah.

We've got a new one.

Hey, you see me.

You see me with

Godson.

Godson.

The jokes run deep.

We're going to have so many

little bits.

It's going to get At complicated.

some point we need to do an episode

that's just bits.

The bit Bible.

Yeah.

On this episode of

Perfume DK, we go

over all our bits

and what they mean and why

they mean that.

A little bit without explaining

anything because

you had

to be there.

Watch every episode,

subscribe to our Patroem.

Because if you

explain

a bit.

Hey, Triones.

Ain't no bit no more.

That bit falls apart a bit.

The bit, the bit, the bit,

the bit.

The bit

The bit ain't no bit no more.

How much?

The bit ain't no bit no more.

Check which.

You bit that bit.

That being

the bit

can be bad no more.

Look,

if it ain't a bit, it's a bite.

It ain't a bite.

It's a bit of bite.

You might as well leave it.

It's a bit of bite.

A bit of

bite.

Yeah, it's in the byway.

Steven's like, I've done it.

Steven's out.

No.

Steven come back.

Like I'm walking home.

No more.

Lord, don't let it be.

That's crazy.

He's like, I ain't seen

none of this.

I ain't got to hear none of this

either.

He said, look,

cause I can't.

I

can't,

so I'm leaving.

I don't want to hear this.

I can't no more.

This has been.

A crazy decay.

An interesting episode.

I love it.

This is.

I think we've,

I think we have achieved

what we initially

thought that

decay would be.

Yeah, I think so.

And here's the thing, I knew this would

happen because we finally

got to a point where we're

like, okay, we hit all the

huge topics,

you know, now it's like, okay,

well, we're not gonna

continue

talking about

those same things

until they come up.

Yeah.

Naturally.

And then we could just point back.

Yeah.

I'm like, how Jesus went back

is McPherson.

Probably.

Dude, that's so wild.

Insane.

Yeah.

Totally.

Or imagine if

Malchizedek,

King of Salem,

okay,

was straight

up like

a king and Jesus

was just here

dwelling on earth

being a king.

Brings a whole new concept to

already, but not yet.

Yeah.

Holy.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

I didn't think about that.

That's cause like already, but

not yet.

In Jesus perspective,

if he went back in

time,

his kingdom was not

yet

here,

but it was already

here back then.

Wow.

In a way, definitely not what Jesus

was talking about.

Yeah.

Different kind of kingdom, but a

king.

The new heavens and the new earth.

Yeah.

The new kingdom being the

people and like the

church and

the

marriage

of the church and Jesus.

But imagine if that

was like a little wink,

That's crazy.

All right.

You're not.

And he's like

talking

to the people

of the kingdom and he was like,

yeah, you know,

he's spouting all these

riddles things.

They think he's

insane.

And he's just

like, he's just got,

he's just,

he's just spouting all this

truth.

He's like, you know, my Kings

are fire in the

future.

You know, it's going to be much bigger.

And,

you know, like, where did this guy come
from?

All my subjects are going to be chill.

Like everything, you know, never going to
have

to eat again.

And,

um, you know, it's going to be this

giant, never going to be thirsty

streets of gold.

Streets of gold.

Pretty sweet

emeralds

everywhere.

Yeah.

All the Chinese.

You've never, you haven't heard of

apartments yet, but in

fact, I'd say in heaven, aren't going to

be on the everyone's going to

be perfect and you don't know what that
comm

is, but that's going to be

a thing in the future.

The bomb.

Oh man.

Also bombs.

Hey, not a thing yet, but

they will be.

Unfortunately, let me tell you something.

Internet.

Not a word yet.

What's he, what is he, did he just

make a sound with this?

But you do know what the word network

is.

Yeah.

But you don't know that

we do

work

the nets.

The network.

Yeah.

Why do you say that backwards?

It's not

work.

Sure.

This this king

of our of

our humble land

Salem.

It's crazy.

He's talking

about

streets of gold.

I think he might be a warlock.

That's a lot of gold.

Is it just like one

street?

I thought we killed off all

the witches.

Like if the streets are

gold, like what are the houses made

out of?

Probably diamond or something.

How would he even achieve that?

He can't even build nothing.

I mean, look at him.

He's pretty weak.

Look, he's a.

Wait,

isn't this guy like

carpenter or something?

I mean, that's what he said his dad

was.

He's a.

Yeah.

But I don't understand it.

Should we overthrow him?

Wait, where'd he go?

Where'd

he

go?

Where'd he go?

Hold on a second.

When you just hear

on there, he's again.

He just

popping in

and coming back.

He's like, Hey guys, uh, you

know, I just kind

of the other day he told my

uncle, so I'm on

has been sitting there ever since

he's like, I'm, I'm, I'm already

in.

I'm not yet.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

I don't think he's saying already.

Not yet.

I don't think he actually knows

how do you become not yet?

You know what I'm saying?

If you're all right, how do

you not yet?

Man, that sounds like something he would

say, you know,

you've been hanging out with them too

much.

You're saying a lot of things are saying

a lot like this guy.

He said something about cross

and look,

I only cross the street.

I try not to because it can be

dangerous.

If you do it wrong, your

neighbors might be crossed with you.

You don't want to be crossed by nobody.

You know, don't cross me.

I'll cross you.

I can't do it.

You hear brother.

I got came.

He definitely, he did.

He definitely is not part of

the order of my kids.

You know what I'm saying?

If you cross him, like

imagine if you cross lame

act,

I heard about this Abram

guy,

who got Abram,

Abram,

Abram.

Yeah.

I hear he really handed up.

I thought it was an hour.

It's Abraham

Abraham.

Abram.

Wait, what about him?

Do you think that

maybe Melchizedek was actually an

angel?

I'm bringing him back.

Our king.

Yeah.

Are we out of bed?

Are we out of the skit?

We could be both.

Did Melchizedek take

us out of time?

If If it

was just.

it wait so

a Christophany has

to be yeah

actual Jesus

actual Jesus

actual Jesus

like blowing

different

Different different Jesus.

No more like

Jesus, but new

body Jesus But like

different different

font different font different

font Jesus like still Jesus

but in a different like

what's it looks different?

You know the phone that

won't run dry.

Oh Yeah,

yeah

Kind of like the fonts

that go on during the

weekends.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know,

I drop my phone in

into the water Oh, did you

have insurance?

I couldn't call nobody.

Oh, you

couldn't couldn't call your

cousin No,

not your own during the

day.

I found the size, you know, oh

Yeah, yeah me

too.

I found size about being

king.

It's probably not gonna happen

Well, that's

that's wrong, you know, I got

big dreams Yeah, I

mean one day all of us got

dreams.

I'm not everybody's

I mean

you wanted you

wanted to

Date your

second sister, but you know, I

mean she's too good for you

Yeah, your dreams die,

but

You know Jesus

means a manual.

Yeah, which means God with

us.

Yeah.

Yeah, so

Well, so maybe

that's why Melchizedek

is talking about

God being with us all the

time.

Yeah

King of righteousness, you know what's

interesting about the word Emmanuel.

Yeah with

man in it.

Mmm

Why are we talking in English right

now?

So, you know that

you know that game dungeon

dragons Yeah,

it's so like everybody

speaks common or

like most of the common

and so it's

kind of like that like, you know

We could be speaking

a different language, but

it's common.

It sounds like

Hmm.

No, yeah, that makes

sense.

Yeah, it's calm.

I'm sure getting

hecka confused.

Here's our king.

Here's the thing

I'm really tired.

Yeah me too.

And I think I'm gonna switch

to a British accent

these

Steven it

looks like he was

about to fall asleep about three years

ago three years ago

three hours ago Wow

and

Mickaela she's crying

She's been crying this entire

session.

She

Is she's a woman

so, you know, she's got issues.

Whoa You know

being the weaker vessel in all that.

Oh shoot

We'll get there in Timothy.

You're acting funny

14 years

I'm sure your face is gonna

look funny.

My face gonna look funny.

Oh, yeah.

I'm being old man 14.

Oh, I've reverted back

I'm be

I

Think

the

conversation we've been having is

definitely not

prim and proper

do not

touch Harry Potter

I Have

a snack

somehow

I'd be

amazed Oh Hannah

means

Hold on hold

on before we wrap this up

Steven, what's your hot

pick on all of this?

Like was there something

where we didn't

actually Cover

something you thought about like

Christophany wise time

Jesus time traveling

wise

Back to the future Jesus

anything

Thoughts no, no,

really, you know, we've

beaten a dead horse

Why are you

beating the dead

horse because we're centers?

We've you know, we've

beaten the dead horse the

Iliad means

when when Steven

says no

thoughts Troy story

I see where

you're going with this and we need to

pray and wrap up

Comes out of your mouth

All right, this

has been

a fantastic

episode and tactical

a

wonder a

wonder and

It's funny

because if you really

sipped through there's some really

interesting ideas

You have to

sift hard

pretty nicely

fine grain sift

But in

all seriousness

We hope that this

was

edifying

We're out of more like

More of the

Denser topics

like of the Bible at

least for now.

Yeah We are

going to be digging into

some types of

things that are a little

more dense

Density is later

density is coming

especially when we get to

know.

Noah

But

we hope

this was edifying.

We hope that it was entertaining

and

fun

to think

about the different concepts that we

did.

And

I

think,

especially when we were talking about the

whole genetic thing, I think

there are

there is a way to

take that a

little

farther,

a little deeper, and to really dig

into

how

genetic

past influences

the future.

And really taking that seriously

because,

you know, the decisions that you make

now are

going to influence

the future.

But have we talked about

epigenetics yet?

We have not yet.

Oh, I'm trying to avoid it, honestly.

Why?

Because that's literally

what you're talking about.

There's a specific

point.

I don't know when it is, but there's a

specific point in which

I want it to come up.

Yeah.

And it's not yet.

But it's already.

You're bringing it up right now.

It's already.

You're saying it's not yet.

So this has been

episode 11.

We've had a great time.

We're also extremely

tired at midnight now.

Midnight 14.

You're fine.

We didn't actually talk

about Enoch at all,

which is so funny.

So why is it

Enoch?

And why is no in

parentheses?

Because it's not the

Enoch that

is

from

the line of

Adam.

Excuse me.

From the line of Seth.

It's the one that

comes from Cain.

And so it's not the

right Enoch.

Yeah.

And probably not even the right

Enoch from the book of Enoch.

Yeah.

Not a knock on them.

Just Enoch.

The guy that Jesus

took or that God

took up.

Yeah.

It was no more.

Yeah.

Had no death day.

Ain't that

Enoch.

Yeah.

When we get to the other Enoch, I'll

explain a little bit more as

to.

a It's little nutty.

Why I kind

of have this.

No, in parentheses.

Yeah.

But we'll

have to do a disclaimer on that

one.

Because if you're allergic to peanuts

or tree nuts,

that one's going to be a dangerous one.

Anyways,

if

you have any thoughts

on what just unfolded

before you,

please be

kind.

But be honest,

constructively.

And we will

hopefully

read

that and

take it

well.

If you think this is one

of the stupidest shows

that you've ever listened to.

There are points where I

will agree with you.

But yeah,

I think

all in all it

reflects our personalities.

And that we don't

take ourselves super

seriously.

And we're not always going

to.

There are points where we're

going to take ourselves

seriously.

But at

those points where we

pretend to be dense,

we might

actually

be a

little bit of

a dunce.

Yeah.

And we'll do a little dance.

On the table.

Stuck in a trance.

Multiple stances.

Holding a lance.

Wildly cramps.

There's no

grassed.

Friends.

Anyways, we're just going to be stupid.

And there's going to be

times where we say

stuff like we know what we're talking

about.

And there's I

guarantee you there's things that

we say that we think we

know.

Yeah.

That are totally wrong.

So point us point us in the right

direction when you hear that.

When you see that and

because we'll be dancing like

dunces.

Yeah.

Pretend to be dense.

Amen.

Dancing.

Dense.

The 3D experience.

We're going to close this

episode.

Does anybody want to pray us

out?

I'll take it.

Okay.

Cool.

Take this head

covering off.

Nice.

All right.

The other baby Jesus.

Just kidding.

Dear God,

thank you for

the

time that you've given us today.

For the breath that you've

given to us and the laughs that

you've given to us.

For the

wonder and the

curiosity that

you've

baked into

our

personalities and the

image

that you've given to us.

Thank you for your word being.

So intricate

and fine and

detailed that

it's better than any.

Critically acclaimed

national treasure

movie.

That's better than

any.

Quote, unquote, quote, film

that.

Mickael enjoys.

And it's

actually something

that is good.

And it doesn't always

end up down the

track of evil

and greed and

disgustingness.

And even if it does, it's

still pointing to your

glory

in

the end.

So thank you for that.

Thank you for the

endless

awesomeness

and curiosities

and wonder that we can find

from both your word

and from

creation.

Thank you for the,

just

the beginning of

the ability

to scratch

the surface of

understanding of who

you are.

God, would you

let

us be humble?

Let us not be arrogant.

Please help us

to

pray

always, to lean on you

always.

To know that we can

be wrong and to be

humble when we're

corrected

by you,

by others.

And God, please help this show to

be edifying and

helpful to anybody

who's listening,

to be helpful in

edifying to

us here at the

table,

for us to be

wise and to

take correction

when

the Bible corrects us,

when you correct us, God.

And God, would you please

use us for your

purposes, whatever that might be,

God.

We praise you.

We love you.

And we say this all in

your lovely name.

All right.

See you guys next time.

Peace out.