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Ram ram
Um, or if you have a silverado
But not a gr not a toyota or if you have a gr
Wow, dude
chill
please that's
by the way
Let's turn that sucker down I need your
Oh
It feels like it's been forever
No, no one what it feels like it's been forever
No, it's because we did it in the morning last time. Oh true. Yeah, I feel it that that was extra that's that earlier hours
Yes
Why didn't we do it in the morning? I don't know. I feel like we were slower in the morning
There was a reason for sure
Well, it was rushed because you were gonna go see hail mary for sure for the second because it's something that you were gonna do
Oh, I think you had my fault
uh
Oh, no, no, no is because it's working steven
That's what it was. No, it was probably a combination of things
I forget though. I didn't think I had work at saturday
No, we don't remember anyways. Welcome
To the podcast
Yeah, yeah, let's just say it's my fault. It's my fault. Okay, sure
uh
Greetings and salutations. Maybe I had something planned actually. No, I think about it. Yeah, who knows anyways, it's all of our faults equally
Uh, we mostly never mind. Uh, I was gonna say some heresy. This is episode 15
And uh
We're coming in hot like we always do coming in hot coming in hot, uh now
You know, we didn't do I always say his name wrong
Uh, because of the song we're actually starting early. Are we yeah, we're seven minutes early
We were supposed to uh pray before we started streaming. Oh shoot my bad
Next time uh
Um, shall we pray now here we are. Well, we're gonna pray anyways in the episode. So that's fair. It'll cover that base
um this week, um
How's your week? It's been pretty good, man. It's uh
It's been a chaotic one. Yeah, that's for sure chaotic. Yeah, uh, you know how last time I said i'll have time now
uh to to maybe work on 3d printing and stuff the 3d printer decided to
completely
Bug out screw up. Yeah, like it
Was working perfectly fine
All week, maybe two weeks in a row and then just all of a sudden it was like
No, i'm gonna i'm gonna screw you over now. Nice. I was printing a uh,
uh
What would you call it anatomically correct
Skull skull. Okay human skull sure for this show. Uh, um, and it was doing just fine
And then all of a sudden I come back
from pickleball
With our new friends and
It's printing in the midair
Above
What it's already printed. Oh, i'm like, yep. Nope. That's no
That's not how you print. That's cool. I thought you knew how to 3d print you showed me
For two weeks straight that you knew how to 3d print. Mm-hmm
It no longer knows how it made that and made that little trash can that's crazy. Yeah, but
No matter what I do now
I'm trying to like recalibrate it get it to print properly. No matter what I do now, it will not work
And I have no idea why I just decided one day to not work anymore. That's awesome
Yeah, so I was less stressed because I had more time on my hands to do whatever I wanted. No
Stress because the printer's not working
This is my life. I just can't catch a break
I feel like i'm looking for things to stress out about and shut your mouth steven. Don't you say it?
freaking thing
Steven, so what I did say was true
Shut your mouth. That's great
um
Great. Yeah, and then you played pickleball pickleball and then
Group. Yep, and we stayed up until 1 a.m. Yep with everyone. Uh, and then
You played pickleball again?
Yeah, it was a crazy week now we're here a lot of pickleball yeah and
Steven's played pickleball more than he's ever played pickleball in his entire life this week. Wow, right? Yeah. Well
More frequently than I've played. Yeah
because
last time we were actually doing pickleball with people there was like
a few times and there's
Almost a year in between we did another spur of it. Yeah, and then now we're doing it again
even
More time in between so I I feel like pickleball has been like that
uh social lubricant
uh that
is the precursor to
A epic saga
of socialization
Interesting. Does that make any sense? I don't know you don't i've i've not um, you have not known partaken of the pickleball enough
Well, you did this time once. Yeah twice, right?
It's also a precursor i'm pretty sure it's like twice well this last week but overall overall i've
played pickleball
I don't know five times. Wow, maybe second bites. I only remember two. It was uh, it was back in the day
Did you just pick up the paddle? No. Oh, okay. Um, no when I was dating
Somebody it's hard to believe the very first thing that we did
The very first date I took her on yeah, that was rude
The very first day that I took her on was pickleball, yeah, and then we ended up playing pickleball after that with other people nice and
That was the end of that is that why you don't like it for such a long time no, oh, okay
I just didn't care for it still don't yeah, it's like our uh, like our friendship. Sure
Yeah
The non-existent one, yeah, yeah because we hate each other
And that's why we made this podcast. Oh, yeah, because we hate each other. Well, we hate ourselves, too
Yeah, but we don't hate steven steven steven. We love yeah
He deserves our love. Yeah, he deserves all the love. Mm-hmm. I'm confused every form of the love. No, no
No, I said the love
But there's a lot of forms of love the love that we have for him. Oh, so the the the
Not a lot love
Because no one's loved us and we don't know. Well, that's not so we don't know jesus loved us
This joke is falling apart. Yes
Oh, no, we just said
We're losing
Anyways
Steven how is your week then? Uh
Uh
Seems like i'm always moving. So
Okay
Um, you're living out of state. No, uh, just out of the room doing stuff out of work
Work, I got called in monday. Yeah, uh had work on tuesday. Mm-hmm
um
We
Hung out
Wednesday, uh
Think so
I don't know
So yeah, that was when you've been out and about that's yeah, that was the first time we played pickleball this week and then
Thursday night and that's when we stayed up
until
One two in the morning we did. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did
That was a good time. It was great time. Then I worked the next day. I didn't go to bed till 7 a.m
Actually, no, that's not true. That was the previous day. Yeah, I was about to say. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, am I taking care of myself yet?
This is about steven, sorry, i'm very selfish i'm self-centered if you can't tell
Um, i'm an egomaniac as my mom says. Um, is that actually a thing that you know, she's it's not
That you know, I should just never ask that question
Just to leave it up in the air forever or just maybe ignore it and then i'll stop thinking it's a good bit
But why would you lie to yourself?
No, i'm confused. All right, that's a good bit
It is good bit
Just a little bit. Maybe it needs to be a gigabit. Anyways, steve
back to you
um
so then
Uh that thursday night
Stayed over at his house. Yeah, you did daniels
um friday
Hung out and then we went and played pick a wall and then
Basically didn't get home till 12 30. Mm. No, it's more like
11 11 30. Well, we went out to eat. Yeah, and I got home at like 12 30. Yeah
So you must have been home earlier than that
Yeah, okay
Um, and then I had work today at 9 a.m
so
Nice double shift, right?
Just a full shift. Oh, okay eight hours. So I figured a full shift was like half that at pet smart
I'm gonna have to put that up
You will I will I feel like we've talked about that before though. Yeah, I think so
And they're not gonna know what pet smart
Are you sure? Yeah
What if I tell them that's the one off of?
How are they not gonna know oh they definitely won't know
right
Uh, yeah, then they'll know no, no, no. No, I mean, you know, look if you're female and you're interested
Uh steven's address i'm just kidding steven's phone number it is his social security number social security number, um
Bank account routing details his socials are I already gave that fair. Yeah
um
What you already gave yeah ready to give them the social just know
Oh, just know that is true. He won't see it coming
Nice thank you. Thank you. Steven. Was that uh, was that all you had? Yeah, pretty much
awesome
So, uh me kyle, how was your week? Um, my week was great. Cool. Cool. Cool. I
Uh
Worked played some satisfactory worked
played some
riveting, uh
Hung out with the peeps. Yeah hung out with the other peeps abandoned us yesterday. Yep. Um, yes, uh, and
Oh, I met with my um
Shepherding elder what's that for everybody? Uh for those of you that don't know, uh, your church should be putting you under
One of the elders of should be of the elder board. Um, so that's is that a biblical thing they can
Oversee you because the overseer the the the head overseer
uh cannot keep track of
A lot of people. Mm-hmm. And so being the pastor the pastor. Um, so
They put you under the elders so they can keep track of your life and pray for you
I don't know if that's should it's modeling after moses, right? Um
I'm, pretty sure it just should
because pastoring has to do with
Leading leading and keeping tabs on
Everything that's going on the lives of the people. It's wise but being
I don't know. It's it's looking after them. Well, how do you look after your flock? Why are they called shepherds?
you have to
you have to meet needs and you have to
Do all that different stuff. Yeah, um, and they also I mean because obviously
they're not just there to
Speak from the pulpit so
Uh, anyways, hopefully we talked about that
well, eventually, um
I'm, not sure. I agree another point
What with with the the assertion that
Churches should be ran that way. Um, we can talk about it later. We can't talk about it
I mean at the very least they how was your time with your shepherding elder? It was fantastic
It's very life-giving to
Experience that and
Uh, I needed that
And on top of that something
Fantastic happened. Oh, yeah
um
before I
Before I got there
Uh something something has returned to my heart which is um joy
no
That's been there. Uh, sure which is my
desire
To get married. Oh
What?
um
The week previous it was my desire to have
To be a father. Oh
and this week it was
Uh to get married interesting. Yeah
Can I ask where did that come from?
uh the holy spirit
So then it just randomly came or was there events that brought it? I mean
I wouldn't say randomly. Okay, um, but the spirit can lead you and set you up in certain situations to
yeah
um, it was
I don't know, especially with last week. It's definitely been
a
There's a lot of humbling that had to come with that and a lot of uh, re
Remembering
Why i'm here because i've been spending
months
After I pushed down those desires. Yeah, it's been a long time. I've been spending months just
Focusing on projects, but then I decided to focus on work
and
Just taking things easy and i've been gaming again, uh, just to
chill, um
And that was weird because generally I am focusing on whatever other things.
And it's just been podcasts and work and spending time with friends whenever I can and whatever.
And family.
Yeah, and family. So I think that created just an opportunity, a great opportunity for my heart to
be softened. Because I mean, you know, just with scripture, reading scripture, hearing the word
preached and everything, there's been a lot of things that have convicted me, which doesn't
really stop. And it's just, yeah, softened my heart towards a lot of things.
Wow, that's good news.
Yeah. And it's funny because it happened the day after we had that conversation.
That's hilarious.
In and out. And I said, oh, yeah, I'm not interested in dating right now.
Yeah.
And now here I am. And I'm like, hmm.
So next time that happens to you, if ever, all I got to get you to do is say the opposite.
Or say exactly what you told me.
Oh.
Force you to say it.
Sure.
And then you'll be like, actually.
Or maybe I just have to say it in front of women and I'm like, oh, maybe I shouldn't.
Yeah. Maybe.
Maybe it'd be more effective. Never mind.
Anyways.
More effective if you have to have the social consequences of saying it.
Yeah.
In front of everybody.
Yeah.
But yeah, and then I hung out with friends last night, which is great.
Played some Catan.
Did you get that shirt last night?
I got this shirt from a coworker three weeks ago.
Oh.
Because I work on Fridays. If we work Fridays, it's Hawaiian shirt day.
That's awesome.
And he got me this shirt and he said, this is you.
And he's like.
That's honestly surprising, though.
It is very surprising.
Yeah.
I would not buy this shirt other than someone else giving it to me.
And.
But that is you, actually.
I honestly, I think it is.
Yeah.
And I think this might be a gateway drug, so we'll see.
For real.
I might have to start wearing Hawaiian shirts, too.
Dude, just wear Hawaiian shirts on the on the episode.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It'd be awesome.
A new one.
Yeah.
If we had the budget for that, send us an obscene amount of money just to buy Hawaiian shirts.
Patreon.
Patreon.
Hook us up.
Yeah.
Actually, though, we.
Help us hook up our Patreon.
We wouldn't need an obscene amount of money to do that.
We just need enough to go to Goodwill.
Every week.
Every week.
For a year.
At least.
At least.
Until recent memory dies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to kill your memories.
We're going to, in your sleep, show up.
And extract the memory.
Oh, do a little Inception.
No, like a slice their head open.
Oh, OK.
Kind of thing.
Yeah.
That's why I was printing the skull.
That's less.
That's less legal.
Practice.
Less.
Yeah, less legal than just doing Inception.
Less legal, but it's more reversible.
I would say.
Cutting part of their head off.
Well, I mean, you put it back.
Are you thinking of leaving their skull open?
No, I'm thinking that you're doing permanent damage to their brain.
Especially because you're not trained.
Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Huge assumption.
Just because the way I look does not mean I am not an MD.
What about your appearance says that you can't?
Cut open a brain.
Everything.
Anyways, let's move on.
Rude.
You're welcome.
Side note.
I am not an MD, but still rude.
Also, you're the one who's not rude to a patient.
Actually, it's life giving to a patient.
Well, oh, you're not an MD.
You shouldn't be speaking to my practice like that.
That's slander.
You have a practice.
I'm pretty sure that's illegal.
Not that you know of.
Let's dox you right now.
You're the one who brought this up with like, well, I guess I started it.
Litten recent memory.
That's just a phrase, though.
Letting recent memory die.
Then you said, okay, we're going to steal your memories and BS, blah, blah, blah.
You're a phrase.
What?
You're a phrase.
I'm a phrase?
You're a phrase.
Get rekt.
Well, at least I'll live longer than most people.
Some phrases live for a long time.
That's a good comeback.
Yeah.
Thank you, man.
I like that.
We should start the episode now.
Nah, let's start the episode.
Before we start perfume, I hear.
That's a ringing.
But besides that, I hear that there's a old friend of ours that wants to come back and
make an introduction.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
Who is that friend?
Hugh, indeed.
Hugh.
Hugh, indeed.
Indeed.
Well, you said, who is that person?
I said, Hugh, indeed.
Hugh is that person.
Humanity is that person.
Just press the play button.
I can't.
Play button.
Humanity here.
Last episode, these beloved hazards opened by asking if they were ready, like three youth
pastors trying to diffuse a microwave with prayer and male confidence.
Then they took Genesis chapter four and drove it straight into a theological flea market.
Daniel started doing his usual thing where he ties Seth, Abel, mortality, legal documents
and the collapse of civilization together, like he is being haunted by both Leviticus
and expired concession stand meat.
McHale tried to hold it all together like a substitute teacher with a caffeine problem
and a laminated flow chart.
While Stephen just floated there like a baptized park ranger from a fish tank forum,
somehow sounding the most sane.
Today they head into Genesis chapter five, which means genealogy, first sons, ancient
timeline chaos, and the kind of name list that normal people fear.
And Daniel treats like buried treasure.
So naturally, these precious clowns are about to turn a family record into a full spiritual
crime scene.
Let's hand it over to Daniel McHale and Stephen.
Yeah, wow.
McHale.
What a, uh, I'm gonna ignore that.
What, uh, well, yeah, he mispronounced it.
What an interesting comeback.
McHale.
McHale, right.
Um, it's been, it's been several weeks.
It's been months, hasn't it?
Yeah, I think so.
We've had Hugh back.
It's been a long time.
He didn't sound very bitter this time.
He didn't sound very bitter.
You think that's why he, like, dipped on us?
I think, I think he had a heart change.
And he needed to sometime apart from the, from the podcast.
Yeah, and definitely wasn't forced on him.
Yeah, he had a choice in the matter.
Yeah, um, a little Easter egg for the episode that's coming out this week, next week.
Uh, that's funny.
Uh, laugh.
Great.
Yeah, I think you did a great job.
I did.
I think he did a great job.
I mean, you did a great job because you made him, uh, he's your son.
Um, you're his father.
Uh, I'm not very comfortable with that.
And you should be.
Uh, cause you created him.
Hugh, I am not proud of you.
Um, I wish you, you don't have a mother.
How does that make you feel?
Let us know in the fall, in the, in the next episode.
That's crazy.
That's true.
Yeah.
He's going to listen to this.
Yeah.
Uh, sorry, Hugh.
Um, what I meant to say is I wish I had a daughter.
Oh, yeah.
What would her name be?
Uh, Hugh.
With an E at the end.
I'm very uncreative if you haven't noticed.
Uh, that's crazy.
Uh, now that we've had a recap, we probably should have done that earlier.
Probably.
Yeah.
But then you just dove right into the weeks.
Yeah, that's true.
But now that he's back.
Yeah.
We can, we can redo.
The Hugh.
Redo the Hugh.
Do the humanity.
Every time I hear someone stepping out of the bed for a second.
Sure.
Every time I hear someone mentioned humanity.
Yeah.
Like the actual word.
I think of you.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, you think of that?
You know about him too?
Oh, absolutely.
All the time.
It's the only thing I think about now.
Someone says human.
I'm like humanity.
Humanity though.
Humanity here.
Uh, I, and I want to say that I want to go up to them.
Humanity here.
Uh, crazy.
Oh, with the unfocused eyes.
You're not like looking at them.
Oh yeah.
Humanity.
Just look at their eyebrows.
Yeah.
Uh, we should start the perfume section.
Yeah, man.
Before we do that.
Does someone want to pray for us?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dang it.
I was just agreeing that someone should pray for us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It should be a tag.
You're it.
You're it.
I'm joking.
I'll pray.
Oh, even though Steven is the chief prayer officer.
Chief prayer officer.
Yeah, dude.
Isn't that what his title is in the constitution?
The CPO.
Yeah.
The CPO, but he's allergic to talking.
So I'll pray.
I feel attacked.
Maybe.
I think this podcast is dedicated to attacks.
All right.
All right.
Uh, dear God, thank you for today.
Thank you for this podcast.
Thank you for, uh, uh, whoever is willing to listen beyond our chaos and, uh, horrible
jokes and, uh, just sheer stupidity.
And actually here, if there's any, any goodness, uh, that you're gonna guide us to in this
episode, God, would you, um, would you speak through us?
Would you use us to, um, to show people that your word is fascinating?
Um, that it's, uh, it's something that can be consumed without, uh, without a degree,
without, uh, any prior experience.
And it's, it doesn't have to be boring.
And God, would you, uh, help us to say what is right and, um, keep our mouth shut, uh,
if it's something wrong, uh, that we shouldn't be saying God.
And if we do say that God, uh, please identify that later so I can cut it.
Um, but also if, if I miss that, would you close the ears of the audience, uh, to that
thing?
Uh, so they don't hear it.
God, um, please, uh, keep us humble here and, um, also entertaining and, uh, keep us
in check and whatever, whatever else I'm missing prayer wise.
God, uh, I know that, uh, your spirit, uh, you, you pray for us.
Um, in ways that we can't even imagine.
So thank you for that.
Thank you for your son.
Thank you for this, uh, this group of friends and, uh, this passage that we're going to
go through.
Amen.
We are in Genesis five.
We have entered into the five zone, which means that we are going to be in a more, a
drier section, a drier section, um, because most of the content is names and years, number
of years.
Um, but we are going to be talking about it because we want to deal with all of scripture
as best as we can.
So this is going to be more of a series pre cursor, if you will.
Sure.
Yeah.
Um, because we're going to be talking about what we're going, what we want to talk about
in the following episode.
So we're sort of like, uh, farmers going through the field, uh, gathering the harvest.
Yeah.
All right.
Um, just picking little topics here and there.
But before we, before we go
and do that, if you guys want to take notes while I am reading, because I've technically
already taken notes.
Um,
Oh, you've taken notes already?
On, yeah, cause I had to set up for the following episodes.
Oh.
The goal here, I'll say this.
The goal of these, uh, sorry, of this episode, uh, one is to map out the genealogy ourselves.
Cool.
Uh, meaning the years when people were born, all that different stuff.
That's why I have a whiteboard behind me.
And then we're going to talk about what things we want to do.
I have the episodes technically laid out, um, already, and there's, I think six of them
or so five.
There's five, five episodes for this chapter for this chapter.
That's suiting, um, this chapter five.
It is.
That's true.
With this episode, it would be six though.
So, oh, um, darn.
Um, so I will read.
If you guys want to take the noteage, take a calendar, do this.
Um, I don't have a pen.
You do not have a pen, uh, or a pencil.
I'm not going to use a laptop.
Uh, I'm old school, dude.
Hmm.
Ah, I'm doing this because there was so much pencil.
Jimmy followed me all the way.
Yeah.
Jimmy.
Heck yeah.
Jimmy is my one true love.
She's beautiful.
Whoa.
She yeah.
Jimmy is not a girl's thing.
You do not.
We said at the beginning of the podcast, Stephanie is a dude.
Jimmy is a guy.
Yeah.
But what if Jimmy is a guy?
What if Jimmy is a girl?
What if, what if our audience just tuned them and they didn't listen to last season?
We need to remind them.
Um, my camera is me and Stephen's camera rather is named Stephanie and he's great.
Your camera, Michael's camera.
Sorry.
I always mispronounce your name.
Mikhail's camera is named Jimmy and she's awesome too.
Sure.
There we go.
Okay.
And our other, we should, at the beginning of the season, we should be like, we are your
hosts and these are our mini hosts.
And then there's the cannon over there and
The cannon that's her. There we go. You just got to point at the camera and then it turns really
Yeah, what's cool? It takes a second, but we're okay. Yeah, nice
Anyways, I'm gonna read we'll take notes cool. Okay Genesis chapter 5
This is the book of the generations of Adam
When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God male and female
He created them and he blessed them and named them man
When they were created when Adam had lived a hundred and thirty years
He fathered a son in his own likeness after his image and named him Seth
the days of Adam after he fathered Seth were
800 years and he had other sons and daughters
Thus all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years and he died
When Seth had lived a hundred and five years, he fathered Enos
Seth lived after he fathered Enos
807 years and had other sons and daughters
Thus all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years and he died when Enos had lived in ninety years. He fathered
Kenan
Enos lived after he fathered Kenan
815 years and had other sons and daughters
Thus all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years and he died when Kenan had lived seventy years
He fathered Mahalo
Kenan lived after he fathered Mahalo
840 years and had other sons and daughters
Thus all the days of Kenan were nine hundred and ten years and he died
When Mahalo had lived sixty-five years he fathered Jared
Mahalo lived after he fathered Jared
830 years and had other sons and daughters
Thus all the days of Mahalo were eight hundred and ninety-five years and he died
When Jared had lived a hundred and sixty-two years
he fathered Enoch after or Jared lived after he fathered Enoch 800 years and
Had other sons and daughters thus all the days of Jared were nine hundred and sixty-two years and he died when Enoch had lived
65 years he fathered Methuselah
each Enoch
Walked with God after he fathered
Methuselah
300 years and had other sons and daughters thus all the days of Enoch were
365 years
Enoch walked with God and he was not for God took him when Methuselah had lived
187 years he fathered Lamech
Methuselah lived after he fathered Lamech
782 years and had other sons and daughters thus all the days of Methuselah were
969 years and he died when Lamech had lived
182 years he fathered a son and called his name Noah
Saying out of the ground that the Lord has cursed
This one shall bring us relief from our work and from the pain painful toil of our hands
Lamech lived after he fathered Noah
595 years and had other sons and daughters thus all the days of Lamech were
777 years and he died after Noah
Was 500 years old Noah fathered Shem Ham and Japheth
Um
Dang, yeah, it's a lot. So
Before we
Dive in really dive into it. Do you guys have any initial thoughts? Oh boy, do I?
First off your numbers are
Way off
my Bible says
And then once it talks about Enoch being taken by God then the numbers start to align
Hmm, so it might be just the way that it's translated. I
Did notice that it like it was sort of in a different order
So the interesting to break that down like why is it?
Translated that way. What version do you have as ESP and ESP and then the NK GV?
New Kenji new King James version is translated this way
Hmm
Be interesting to dive into that. I'll pass it off before I take everything. Okay, Steven Steven. No, I
Just kind of kept trying to catch back up. Mmm, but I
Was just listening. So was there anything that stood out to you when you're listening? No, nothing weird. Nothing nuts. Nothing crazy
Nobody simple the fact that they live so so freaking long
I was pretty nuts. Yeah, kind of crazy. Yeah, Michael. I'm thinking about the
The next chapter and
What are they called the flood no the the sons of God were they called the Nephilim Oh Nephilim and
Wait, did they live hundreds of years too? I would think so. Yeah, that's crazy
Mm-hmm. Anyways, my first thoughts
This is for sons
Because it it says
Who the father is the father had this son and then it says he had other sons and daughters
Mm-hmm. I mean that can be an assumption because it says
It all it says is and he had other sons and daughters, but it has that and if it didn't have the and
If it said he also had
Then that could be taken as oh there could be other
Children in and around whatever
I bet you if you look at the original language, there might be some clues to that. Yeah, also the original culture
Yeah, the original culture usually points to the eldest son first
Yeah
So maybe we should investigate the language of these sections
Yeah, we definitely need to and then after Enos way isn't enough after Enoch
Which actually I think that's another translation thing
Some books call it some translations call it Enoch and others call it Enoch. I think I remember Enoch was
The son of Seth and then Enoch is the son of Jared. Okay. All right. I see. Okay. I was wrong there
Hold on am I writing? Okay. Um, so another thing that I saw like immediately was the precursor
Chapter 5 verses 1 through 5. Mm-hmm
I mean, it's just like a little introduction, but usually there's a whole bunch of stuff that we miss in the introduction. Mm-hmm
it's almost like
Someone gives you a map and a way to interpret it. Mm-hmm
What's that thing called? It's like a key. Yeah
I thought there was a bigger name for it, but
It's like trying to read a map without the key without the legend without the whatever it is, right?
Mm-hmm that first five for those first five verses could be the key to the rest of this
I'm just saying that could be but the
couple things that immediately stood out to me was
that God made
All of these people in the likeness of himself. Mm-hmm
then
Distinctly calling out that he created them as male and female so to two types. Yeah
and
Then saying that he he called the mankind so we didn't name ourselves. We didn't name ourselves mankind or humanity. Mm-hmm
humanity, yeah
Nothing, okay
I don't get it
Let's see, what else you have something oh and then it just dives right in I guess I was wrong
Precursor is just the first two verses then it talks about Adam. This is the book. Yeah, that's oh, yeah, that's a good clue
What does that mean? It's weird. Why would this chapter is specifically a book? This is a chapter dude. What do you mean a book?
Yeah, this is the book of the generations of Adam your says generations mine says genealogy. Yeah
Interesting. Yeah, that's a good point the book
Okay, what else so I guess
Technically in the order that I wrote the notes for this episode
Hmm, we're gonna do the genealogy thing first, but let's just let's just talk about let's let's continue doing what we're talking about parsing it
and then
And then we'll try and see if we can split things up. Yeah
For the episode cool. Cool. Yeah, like choose a few. Yeah, I like it Steven. You got anything yet?
Take your time. If not, nope. I was gonna type out names and ages
Yeah, yeah, that's what I started doing I was written down the ages
That's kind of what we should do next I would think right you've got a whiteboard back there, right
Me Kyle, right, but we're gonna do that when we do the genealogy
So right now we're talking about everything we're talking about the content of the passage. Okay, so we're gonna do that fresher. Sure. Sure. Sure
I probably miss a whole bunch of stuff, but it seems like Adam Seth
Enosh Kanan
Mahalo
Jared Enoch all
Well, not Enoch but up to Jared are all kind of like
Same old same old hmm
and then
Like same pattern. Mm-hmm. Just different names different years and then Enoch is different. Yeah
Methuselah is different. I
Think no, it's not
Lamech is difference
so first Enoch is
Walking with God. Mm-hmm. And then he was not because God took him. Mm-hmm. What does that mean?
Does yours say something different? Yeah, so why do we assume that that means he went up to heaven?
Or he like went up in a fiery chariot chariot, oh, no, I'm thinking of Elijah. Yeah
So he just disappeared maybe I don't know so again, maybe looking at the language but also
Why is that called out and then there's no story at all. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's just
Yeah, oh by the way, but we also know looking back at
last episode in verse in chapter 4 the last two verses 25 and 26
We were
Sort of digesting that like that seems out of place and our conclusion. There was I
Don't think anything in the Bible can be out of place. Yeah, it's there for a reason
Yeah, it's there for a reason like yeah chapter markers and first markers are
Weren't in the original text
and
then also apparently
This is a whole new book that we're reading right and then it's like
Maybe bundled like a whole bunch of scrolls right and bundled into one
I
Guess stack of scrolls like all of these are basically in the same
Category right the Genesis category
The beginning yeah, and
So there has to be a
reason that that's mentioned
So what is that reason? Why why does the Bible just randomly go? Oh and you know, by the way, right he's gone
After 365 years
Which did yours say 365? I think it did. Yeah, so that's where it started of lining
Then the next thing I saw was
Lamech having Noah. Mm-hmm, which by the way lamech was the last
Of Cain's line that was mentioned. That's interesting. Yeah, I just realized that. Mm-hmm
Is there a intentional tie there? And if if so, and
I guess if so, why yeah for what reason
Obviously, there's no way that we'd be able to prove that
Well, there's another Enoch and another Lamech. Yeah
Enoch was the son of Cain. There's no Methuselah the direct son of Cain
and
Lamech was the one that
screwed things up
Went went real crazy. I guess yeah, and we hear more about Lamech sons than oh
There is a hold on that's weird, so there's Methuselah and then there's
Methuselah yeah, so I'm wondering if those are the same names because you know how
Translations
It's almost like a transliteration. Yeah, where it's
They they don't know how to translate it into English. And so they just make it look like it sounds. Mm-hmm
So
Maybe there's something there where God is comparing the line of Cain with the line of Seth
and then Noah is
The first one where there's a quote
For him like it's it's a genealogy and then just add a left field. Here's a quote. Yeah a little
Yeah, this is that Noah. All right, by the way the one who will comfort us
Concerning our work and the toil of our hands because the ground which the Lord had cursed and
Also, like why was he known that way? Yeah
Like the the speaker is saying this I guess the speakers Moses which we should confirm by the way
Apparently that's a well-known phrase. Hmm like Oh Noah. Yeah, the one who basically gave us
The ability to have meaning in our toil or work
Is that what it says? Hold on the one?
This one will comfort us concerning our work and the toil of our hands
So comfort in all of the the hard work
Because of the ground which the Lord has cursed. Mm-hmm. So I don't know. Yeah, it's a weird
It's a weird thing to say, right? Well, it's a weird thing to say
If you don't know about what Noah is going to do. Yeah, but no, I know what Noah is about to do and or be involved in. No, no, no, no, it I'm saying like, why would Lamech just say that? Did Lamech say that? Lamech his father said that. Oh, I was I was thinking the speaker was Moses. Okay, because I'm wrong here. Lamech lived 182 years and had a son and he called his name. He being Lamech or Lamech and he called him
Noah saying this one will comfort us concerning our work. Okay. Yeah, that's weird. So how did he know that? Did he know it? Or was he just saying it? Yeah, I don't know. God's very good with like, he's very on top of names.
Well, the thing is, is with this, this is this is part of what makes me think that God is just is just having conversations with these people is like sidebars is just they're chilling with some of the some of the people. I mean, look at look at Enoch.
Yeah.
Um, after at the end of chapter four, at that time, people began to call upon the name of the Lord. Yeah. And so maybe that's this group of people. Yeah. Um, what I'd be curious is, uh, who knew who in this line? Like, did Adam know Noah? Did he know Lamech? Did he know Methuselah? Did he know Enoch? That'd be weird.
Yeah.
Yeah. Nations descended from Noah. That's chapter 10. Chapter 11 is the Tower of Babel. There's Shem's descendants, which is one of Noah's sons, Terah's descendants, which is someone from Shem, I think. Okay. All right.
All right. Well, it was it was sort of identified as a possible, uh, other genealogy that conflicted with this one. So, I kind of want to look into is there a genealogy that conflicts with this one? Because when I actually last episode, this is where I got it. Last episode, when I was looking up the age of the earth, if we just take these genealogies at face value, um, it would be somewhere around 6,000 years, right?
From creation day zero to now would be about 6,000. And in all of that said that, uh, it's kind of hard to tell exactly the number, um, because Genesis 5 is a source as well as Genesis 11, which apparently I'm misremembering that, but it said something to that effect.
So, is there another genealogy that conflicts with this one? And, um, is it actually a conflict if it does exist? Right. Anything else?
I mean, we went through the whole thing.
Cool. Did we go through the whole thing?
We did.
Got Lamech.
Got all the way to Noah.
Uh, yeah, it ends with, well, actually, no. It ends with, uh, verse 32, and Noah was 500 years old, and that's usually where it would end, um, until it goes into begot. I guess it would end, or it would continue. So, it says, and Noah begot Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Uh, that's weird.
So, it's almost as if the Bible is, like, zooming out. Like, here's a whole swath of history, uh, from 60,000 feet, and now we're zooming back in. Right? We're not just mentioning the first sons, or one son out of many.
Yeah.
Um, we're mentioning three, and not only three, all of Noah's sons.
Yeah.
We're gonna mention here, and then it goes into even closer, like, okay, let's look at his family now. So, maybe that's why it's talking, like, and Noah's dad said this about Noah, and here's Noah's sons, and now let's talk about Noah and his sons.
Mm-hmm.
That makes sense.
It's interesting, because this is called a book, right?
Yeah.
And so, I'm wondering, does the book really, I mean, is the book really one page? And, like…
I don't think so.
I don't know.
And if it's, if it says this is the genealogy book, uh, then why does it include the story of, of, uh, the judgment of man, like, the flood? Um…
Well, yeah, yeah, that's the other question, is, like, where, where does this book end?
Where does it stop? Yeah.
Um, or is it just this one chapter?
I mean, if we're talking, like, the story of Noah, that goes to, like, chapter, the end of chapter 10.
It, it, it almost feels as though this is, like, the beginning of this chapter.
Yeah.
Like, like, Genesis is actually chapter one through four.
Yeah.
And then there's, like, a book of Noah.
The book of Noah.
Or, like, or, like, the rest, uh, like, I don't know what it would be called, but, like, the fathers of the faith or something.
Yeah.
Like, the book of…
Cause, cause, I mean…
But it's weird, because it, maybe that's why they put the scrolls together, because the previous chapter was Lamech and his sons being the fathers of certain things.
Yeah.
And now it's like, okay, but these are the fathers of the faith.
Noah.
Uh, and then we got the Tower of Babel, obviously.
Dude, I just saw…
Abraham.
I just saw it in chapter 14.
Yeah, dude.
Abram, blessed by Melchizedek.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
So hyped.
And then the covenants.
Um, and then…
There's a, there, I mean, there's a whole lot that happens.
Oh, you know what's happening here?
What?
Bro, you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
Uh, so, Lamech, uh, Cain's family, right?
Mm-hmm.
Um, ooh, let's go back farther.
Adam.
Adam and Eve, perfect.
Mm-hmm.
Adam and Eve, not perfect.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, Abel and Cain, Abel good, Cain bad.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Cain did bad.
Now here's bad Cain family, right?
Mm-hmm.
Lamech.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
I might need to think about that more, but this is where I had the epiphany.
Okay.
Uh, Lamech, uh, and his, well, Cain and his family ending with Lamech and the founding
fathers of tents and musical instruments.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, among other things.
Um, Noah and his family, uh, the father of, uh, all of mankind who survives and carries
on, uh, anything and everything, but also as a father of de-faith.
Um, then we have, uh, the Tower of Babel, another bad thing.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
And then we have Abraham, uh, starting out as Abram, um, God making a covenant with him,
uh, through Melchizedek, uh, Melchizedek and directly.
Um, and then after that, Sodom and Gomorrah, maybe it, maybe it doesn't continue that pattern,
but the pattern I saw immediately, um, just jump out at me is good family, bad family,
good family, bad family.
So.
Or good event, bad event, good event, bad event.
Taking what you just said.
Yeah.
This is a classic by classic.
I mean, the classic, um, idea of something that we've actually said in this podcast,
which is more information means as we zoom out, there's just a whole lot and we get lost
in that.
Right.
And I think that's what you just pointed out is that this story is very black and white.
Mm-hmm.
There's the bad side.
Mm-hmm.
There's evil.
Mm-hmm.
And it's, and it's continuation and there's the good side and it's continuation.
But it's also not.
And the, and well, but in it, in it, the Bible constantly goes back and forth.
Here's the good.
Here's the bad.
Here's the good.
Here's the bad.
We see it in Kings.
We see it in.
Kings is a lot of bad.
A lot of bad.
Um, but there are good Kings.
Yeah.
And then we see it with the prophets and them pointing to, you know, this is what's going to happen.
This is the bad stuff that's going to happen, but also here's the good that's going to happen.
And then we see with Jesus, Hey, here's all the bad in the world, but here's the good news.
Right.
And it's just this constant.
Yeah.
Back and forth.
And it's kind of, uh, goes back to the Genesis episode.
Uh, I think it was three morality where we, I, I think we talked about how, when Adam and Eve chose the fruit, they chose their own morality and that made things confusing and a mixed evil and good together.
And because that was mixed together.
Now we've got this, I guess, early on in history, this sort of simple, but not really simple, uh, melding of good and evil.
Right.
Um, and then later in history, it gets more and more mixed up to now before, like in the prophets before the, the years of silence where God doesn't talk to the prophets anymore, doesn't talk to Israel.
He's fed up with them and, and tells them, Hey, y'all are on your own until I come basically.
Um, which again, I need to look that up before I get myself in trouble.
Um, or I'll put in the show notes.
We'll put in the show notes.
Um, but it gets, it becomes gray almost, and it's ever more impossible for us to separate what is right and what is wrong.
Yeah.
Morally.
Um, and what are the Jews doing when Jesus shows up deciding, still deciding what is right morally and what is wrong morally.
And Jesus shows them, nah, you still got it wrong.
Yeah.
You still got, you got it badly wrong.
You're forsaking your own family because you have to tithe.
No, dude, that's not what I meant.
Even a little bit.
No.
And you're tithing so that you can prove to other people you're holier than thou.
The heck is wrong with you, dude.
Your mom and dad are starving over there.
They can't, their roof needed to be replaced yesterday.
What's wrong with you, man?
And you're telling your mom and dad like, oh, I'm sorry.
I got to serve the Lord because I'm holier than thou.
You got your priorities mixed up, sir.
Nah, nah.
And so Jesus comes in and actually starts to separate the gray and to back into what is good and what is right.
Yeah.
And into what is wrong and what is morally disgusting.
Right.
And so it's almost like this, what would you call it?
I would call it like a, I'm imagining, what do you call the timer that has a choke point in the center?
It's like sand.
Oh, hourglass.
Hourglass.
Hourglass shape.
Sure.
I'm imagining history coming to a point where Jesus is that center point in the hourglass.
And then.
Kind of like the flood.
It's like, yeah, right.
It's a choke point of like mass evil, mass confusion.
And then the opposite end is us, is his people, his family spreading the gospel through the world that still wants to become ever more confused.
Yeah.
As Romans 1 says, right?
Ever more confused.
And yet there's a light in the darkness because of Jesus who lives on in us, who's able to keep at least some semblance of understanding of what is right and what is wrong.
Yeah.
And not even just for the sake of that, like Paul hammers that home hard.
It's like, if you want to just know what is right and wrong, just cut your dick off and be a Jew.
That's basically what he says.
Does he not?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like put your, there's better ways to say it, but put your money, here's one, put your money where your mouth's at.
Yeah.
Go and do what you say you're going to do and shut up.
Yeah.
Right.
I guess it's more than just the law.
It's more than what is right and wrong is Paul's point.
Yeah.
It's coming back to the garden, coming back to walking with God and having such a good time with him that God is like, yo, you're cool, dude.
You're cool, Enoch.
You want to like chill at my dad's house?
Mm.
All right.
Huge riff.
Michael, I saw you had an idea.
You were looking through the Holy Scriptures.
Oh, I just realized that majority of Genesis, or a lot of Genesis, I should say, is Joseph.
Joseph?
Joseph.
For real?
Yeah.
Dude, look at it.
That's nuts.
So we get to Jacob, right?
Chapter 27.
Okay.
Isaac blesses Jacob.
Wait, wait, wait.
Isaac comes in the scene, like, chapter 24 or 23.
Right, right.
Jacob's sent to Laban.
Okay.
Jacob marries Leah and Rachel.
By the way.
Jacob's prosperity.
Jacob flees Laban.
Uh-huh.
Jacob fears Esau, which is some of my favorite.
Oh, that was a good story.
Favorite stories.
Yeah.
The defiling of Dinah.
God blesses and renames Jacob.
Deaths of Rachel and Isaac.
Oof.
Esau's descendants.
Chapter 37.
Uh-huh.
Joseph's dreams.
Uh-huh.
And greatness.
And from there to the end of the book.
Really?
No.
Is just Joseph.
Really?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Chapter 50.
I thought we talked about Israel.
Chapter 50.
I guess that's true.
And in verse 22, the header is the death of Joseph.
Oh, my God.
I'm like what?
We're gonna have a whole series dedicated to Joseph Joseph. There's that's got that's there's a lot
I feel like there's gonna be a lot to read and oh my gosh. Yeah, what what's going on?
Why is it how many new chapters? Huh? So it's
37 to 50. Yeah, I feel like that's 23, right? No, that's that's 13. Yeah
So, I mean, it's not the majority of Genesis, but it's the majority if we're talking like
Uh, like names. Yeah, like mentions. He's mentioned in 13 chapters. Yeah, that's
Crazy, that's ridiculous. And I mean and and that's with Jacob too. So like yeah, the whole Jacob thing is
Also long like where Jacob started Jacob starts
All the way in
Why you look for that I thought 25, yeah, okay, so that's how that's half of the boy that's that's crazy. That's
Okay, so we were wrong
But you realizing Joseph? Yeah is what open your eyes to Jacob, huh?
We should what about Abraham Abraham? I mean, I see Abraham Isaac Jacob
So why the teen?
14 why is Joseph not mentioned along with Abraham Isaac and Jacob as the founders of
Israel yeah
Abram starts in 12 and that's pretty much a quarter of the book because from a oh no
Is it from Abram Abram Abram is Abraham? He's renamed. All right, but is it from?
Who is the father of Jacob? This is a crazy tangent, but it's Abram. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, so
13 chapters pretty much
Of Abra Abraham. Well, he's mentioned to in the last chapter chapter 50
verse
24 yeah
He swore to Abraham Isaac and to Jacob. So we're gonna have a huge section for Abram
Abraham, yeah, which is why we're taking a break Jacob and a huge
section and the
Huger section for Joseph Joseph is gonna be like honestly, it's good story 50 episode. It's a great story. Oh, it's a fantastic story
some of the best storytelling and more of
Yeah, that's it. I can't believe that's like one day in Sunday school. Yeah, right
And looking I'm like, uh, and there's probably a bunch of details that like I don't remember right and because I thought Exodus
Like the story of Israel. Yeah, was that the like halfway point in Genesis?
Mmm
Interesting, I'm completely wrong dude completely. Yeah, dude Exodus is gonna be like another
200 episodes. Oof. I don't know if we're gonna jump into
Immediately, I feel like we might do our own Exodus before we come back. Yeah, we might move on to something else for 40 years
or so
We'll wander
We'll be let's see
70 around that. Yeah, so we live to like 800 or something. Oh, I'm sure
Well, we'll need more time than that honestly
So let's
Come back to chapter 5. Yeah
Because let's let's try and
Because right now we're at these topics a little bit. Yeah, we're at an hour and 11
Okay, we're gonna do perfume and decay on this topic
Yes
Do you want to separate the decay as like the practical separation of the generations the decay?
I figured was going to be us talking about the actual timeline. Okay, so looking at okay
So what do you want to do right now?
Let's try and
Divide up the topics. Okay divide up. What do you mean by that divide up the topics in terms of categories episodes?
Oh, okay. So first we got a list out all the all the things. Well, I already did. Oh sick. Thanks for that
I've wrote down everything that I think we would talk about. Okay, sick
So and I already did it for each episode. So this should be relatively quick. Okay, awesome
Episode 16. So the one right after this
Genesis 1 through 5. Uh-huh. And the first question is this is the book question mark chapter 5 is a book question mark
um, then from there the blessings
referring to
Male and female he created
Verse 2 he created them and he blessed them and named them man. So what?
Bless your says man. Mine says mankind. Yeah, it's it's referring to man
Okay, so whenever Genesis or the Old Testament or anywhere refers to capital M man
That is not being sexist. No, that's being like that's using the word
Humanity. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah
and then
Calling us man
That's another thing
Yeah, male and female he created them. Yeah
and also
You skipped over verse 1
Making God making them and his likeness. Well, we technically talked about that in
Chapter 1 chapter wherever I think it's to where a guy creates Adam and Eve. Yeah, I mean we can
again jinx
Good gracious deep
I'll listen back to what we originally said so we don't
Recover everything. Mm-hmm. And if we come up with some original idea cool. Yeah, how about I do that?
That's my homework. I'll listen to it. And if I think of anything else, I'll I'll send it in the group chat
And we can talk about it. Sure on next episode. Yeah, cool
The next part is Adam father. This is interesting and and maybe this is necessary as specifically for this Adam fathered Seth
in his own likeness
Mm-hmm image. Oh
That's why it's mentioned twice. Maybe if that's not an accident using the same words same phrases
I'm underlining that
I'll even make a line between the two. That's what I did. Jinx. It's messed up
And then the last thing that I wrote cuz that's a lot. Yeah for one episode
130 years Cain and Abel question mark when question mark so
Yeah, we can kind of speculate if we want which we already did. Yeah, we did last
Yeah about like when they would have been
Yeah
That's so that's
Episode 16, which I called raise raise raise like raise the race raised stuff. Gotcha raised in likeness
17 I have to change the numbers on all these
Which is Genesis 5 6 through 20
living hundreds of years
Officially being able to talk about it. Yeah, technically
Talks about it. We've talked about a lot
What could affect the age difference so again we talked about that
Already. Mm-hmm. Well, we can we're allowed to talk about it now technically in terms of right on the Bible. Yeah
second Enoch question mark
Book of Enoch continued slash from land
land
Convo
Research done question, huh? I'm reading you're not literally what my notes say
Read them verbatim. You're supposed to know exactly what I'm doing
But no specifically like okay, so there's a second Enoch
And then there's also a book of Enoch and where does like that fall in there?
But like okay, so there's the Enoch from Cain and now there's the Enoch
from from the line of Seth
And how does that
Like is that on purpose we can kind of talk about that right which we've already seen that several different different ways
Mm-hmm, which is weird
and then
The first time and this isn't the first time but then I guess
Talking about and had other children were up just for every just for all just for all of these pretty much
Um
Yeah, mine says and had sons and daughters, yeah, I think we should
Which episode are we talking? This is two episodes from now. So 17 and what's called 100 100 got it
Which one is versus 3 through 5
2 3 5 would be
16 so the next episode the episode following this one that we're on right? Okay
So versus 1 through 5 is first episode. Yeah, and what are the topics topics are?
This is the book question mark the blessings
Calling us man
Seth fathered
In Adams likeness and image
130 years Cain and Abel 130 years Cain able. Okay, I think also
Either
First off that's a lot of topics. Yeah, it's probably gonna end up being a
Well, I don't I don't think we're gonna do a whole lot with man with the mankind thing
I don't think we're gonna do a whole lot with 130 years. Hey, remember last time you said that I mean cuz
specifically because the man thing
We'd literally just said it
Okay, because it's humanity. Okay
And the book thing in Seth in likeness probably the main topic is going to be likeness and image
When it comes to Seth, yeah. Yeah, probably. Yeah, that was really interesting. Yeah, so my interest already
So that's
So what I'm getting at is I want us to cover the language
Why this is so repetitive
Okay
Like it's the same exact
phraseology for
Each I think that would be good for when we get through all of it
mmm
Why why yeah
It would either be good for when we get through all of it or before we get through all of it
That's what I'm thinking before
Reason being is if there's a reason for the phrase
Being lined up that way
And to look into the lane like the original language of it
to see if there's
Deeper meaning behind it all that could frame or other conversations in a completely different way. Sure
For example yours your version says that
Let's see here. I'll read six through eight Seth lived 105 years read along so you can see the difference
that's Seth lived
105 years and
begot Enos
So what does your say when Seth had lived 105 years? He fathered Enos?
Okay, sick and after he begot Enos Seth lived
807 years your says
You
Well, let me finish and had sons and daughters
Yeah, seven says seven says eight hundred seven. Yeah, so all the days of Seth for nine hundred and twelve years and he died
Yep. Okay
Let's jump forward first 15. Mahalo lived 65 years and begot Jared. Mm-hmm
After he begot Jared Mahalo lived eight hundred and thirty years. Yep and had sons and daughters
So all the days of Mahalo were eight hundred and ninety-five years and he died yep
Dear says that yeah, was I just mishearing you completely this entire time. It seems like it. Yeah, Jared was 162 years
800 years and had other sons and daughters
962 yep Enoch 65 years
father
Fusilla 300 years and then 365. Uh-huh. Okay, then Hainan 70 in 70 years
840 years 40 910. Yep
Enosh 90 90 815 905. Yep. Okay
105 for Seth. Yeah, hundred and eight hundred seven. Yep, 912. Yep. Okay, I guess I'm stupid
Mm-hmm
Well, that's that yeah
I'd still do want to figure out
the like phraseology like is this
Is there something behind it? Like is this just a common way to write genealogies?
Or is this the first genealogy of all time coming? Um, oh, that's why I was gonna I said we should do it at the end
because
technically
We're gonna do research for the end
After we go through everything and that would require research. Oh, right to see if we
Miss something or yes interpreted something. Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, and we could also cover on that last one
If there's any conflicts
With other genealogies. There we go
I like this where it's like almost we're bringing the audience into the the planning phase. Yeah
I will and when it comes to things like this and
As you hopefully know at this point I want to do things consistently, sorry one more time
The way the way we're doing this I want I want to do consistently I missed the last word
Okay consistently I got it I got it
Savannah scream. Oh
My gosh, right what a sound
You're talking. I'll bring it up. No, no, no. No, no when she comes on. Yes. Okay, absolutely
Embarrassment
Not sorry, um, but I want to do things consistently and and starting with this even though we don't have
An audience I think
when
We do this in the future. This will be good
Practice. Yeah, and I think it's just a good idea. Anyways, because we do a dry a dry run
And then we do some research and really get into the nitty gritty of what's actually going on here.
Yeah, so more consistently with the podcast, what you were saying earlier at the coffee shop,
we don't want to prepare, which I had the conversation, he won again, Stephen.
No.
He won again.
He won again.
Oh gosh.
Uh, if I had good reasons, I'll remember them later and then we'll have this conversation
again and you'll complain that I keep forgetting and I'll tell you, no, I don't keep forgetting.
Uh, I just disagree sometimes.
Um, I think just to fill you in the audience.
Um, I think sometimes that we should prepare more, um, so that you don't hear us ramble so
much and we don't stumble over our own words and make a fool of ourselves.
But Michael, we're kind of here to make a fool of ourselves.
Yeah.
And I also agree.
And for some reason, forget quite a bit.
Um, that's, we're not here to be everybody else.
We're not here to, uh, impress anybody.
We're not here to prove that we're better than you.
I mean, we're here to prove the opposite.
Yeah.
We're here to prove that we're the same.
Unlike, uh, we, we are not prepared.
We are not studied.
We are not, we did not plan this out.
Yeah.
Um, that's why this is fitting that we're planning this here with you and it would be
better if we actually had anybody in the live audience.
Cause then they could call us out.
No, no, they could read along.
And they'll be like, yeah.
When, when you said to us, like, what do you see so far?
We could see what the audience sees too.
Just reading the chat for future, future note.
I can't wait for that to happen.
Dude, I, I, I think, I think when we actually have an audience, um, I mean, my hope is that
they sit there and they're just like, wow, I can actually like follow, follow along and.
Digest what's being said.
And I mean, we, we, we are studied to some degree, but we're not, we're not trying to
be so studied for the episode that all we do is talk about what it is that we studied.
And what we found.
But it's more what our initial thoughts are, which is what we bring when we read the word of God.
But we bring our initial thoughts and then we kind of, we leave it there.
It's almost like that spark of like, hey, we just went through this
and this is what's going to motivate you to read.
Prove us wrong.
Read it again.
Yeah.
And, and, and yeah, prove us wrong to be like, wow, these guys are idiots.
Yeah.
Slash like.
Probably are.
Also like, oh man, what they'd said is actually really interesting.
And I'd like to take that further and keep going and keep reading and, and, you know,
carry that idea or.
It's going to take us forever to get through all of this.
Yeah.
And so why don't you go, uh, why don't you Corgis go first off,
once we get an audience, you can rename yourself.
Okay.
But until then you're Corgis.
I don't know.
I might force it upon them.
Oh, no, we can, we can have a division.
My team is called the Corgis.
The rest of everybody else doesn't exist.
They're cut off.
This is a challenge to you, Corgis.
Why don't you read ahead?
Yeah.
Cause, and cause it's going to take us forever.
Yeah.
Like we only do one a week, uh, if that, and if you go ahead and read ahead, um, once we get to
where you've read and you've dug in, maybe you've dug in with friends and you've, uh, found those,
those jewels and those, those things that just make you astounded, uh, like it does us.
Goosebumps.
Look at it.
Goosebumps.
Dang.
Yeah.
Um, just remembering all the times we've been astounded on this, uh, on this podcast.
Yeah.
Um, like you see, you hear the excitement in our voices.
Yeah.
In our faces.
And like, just, you remember that episode where I like got up and like through the fan stuff.
It was wild.
Yeah.
Um, actually I think that was a half-breed, but anyways, um, you can follow along and see if we
come to the same conclusions, uh, or find the same jewels that, that you and your team did.
Yeah.
Um, or if you're doing it by yourself, that's cool too.
Give me some insights.
Cause I don't know how to do this on my own for some reason right now.
Maybe it's that we're, we're the dummies.
We are dumb.
And we're, we're calling for our audience to be.
To better us.
The, the, the learned ones.
Which, yeah.
Yeah.
Of course you're gonna, we're gonna have people that are eventually listening.
Yeah.
That are way smarter than we are.
I mean, my brother listens every now and then.
What's interesting about that too.
All of us, I think.
Yeah.
In his own unique way.
Yeah.
But I think he's read the Bible more than all of us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's interesting about that too is, um, this is us to a degree learning.
Yeah.
To, uh, uh, it is a showing us.
Going through a learning process.
Yeah.
Um, in a very entertaining way.
And it's, to be clear, this shouldn't be the only time that we're learning.
No.
Um, but it is the only time that we're doing it before an audience that can, and probably does.
No more than we do, um, which, yeah, I can't wait till we have an audience.
I think that would be awesome.
But imagine that.
Like if I had a, a podcast that I could listen to like this and then I would for sure.
Dig ahead and see if they mentioned the same things that I did.
Oh yeah.
If they don't.
I'll call them out on the live.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, Hey, you guys missed that one little bit.
You dummies, but not like that.
It's more like an excitement.
It's like, this is a family and like, boy, you're telling me you missed this.
Guess what?
Let me show you.
Oh, also I just found out, uh, we have the ability to go live on Instagram.
Oh, sweet.
So once I program something where it actually like.
Uh, I guess frames us correctly, uh, in a portrait mode.
Yeah.
In theory, we could bring someone on live from Instagram.
Cool.
Yeah.
That'd be sick.
Right.
Yeah.
Make it a little easier to have another person.
Call-ins.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it would be suiting too.
Instead of just having a phone call or something.
Yeah.
Um, maybe he will get a body.
Probably not.
Oh, episode, like 200 humanity body, the body of Christ, the body of no, no humanity.
Oh, spicy.
Wait, you forgot the space, the body of humanity.
I said what I said.
We should continue with, with this.
Yeah.
Um, but episode, so episode 18, totally dedicated to Enoch, um, because, uh, just talking about.
Walking with the Lord, I think is a good pause in being token token.
Sure.
Um, then nine, 19, uh, we talk about.
The better versions, if you will, of Enoch and Lamek, uh, and then Noah.
And why did Noah say, why did Noah say what he said?
About why did Lamek say what he said about Noah?
Um, and then we'll probably throw in there that Noah's children came after Noah was 500 years old.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Cause what I've noticed before is, uh, my brother has told me several times I'm wrong,
but I've noticed before that, uh, there's a small.
But noticeable, uh, what other people would say is statistically significant portion of people,
uh, that are, um, are mentioned as I guess, holier or more righteous or, uh, pursuing God more
than the others.
Uh, there's a, a, a correlation between those people, uh, and the other people and the fact
that they wait X amount of years to have their first children.
And I forget if it's, you don't wait as long and that means you're correlated to being
righteous or you wait longer and you're correlated to being righteous.
And again, my brother says I'm wrong.
So maybe I'll bring his notes on, um, to counter my point.
Um, but it seemed to me at the time when I read that and realized that,
that there was a stick to statistical, sorry, let me put the nerd voice on.
Ready?
It seems to be a statistical, likely a statistical correlation between, uh, those two things.
Nice.
Thank you.
Um, I need tape on my glasses now.
Yeah, you do.
So with that, the following episode after that, so that we just talked about episode 19.
Okay.
Episode, the following episode, episode 20.
Oh dude.
Perfect.
That's 10 episodes a season.
It is.
If, yeah, because, uh, technically we do a recap.
Oh yeah.
And the recap episode was episode 10.
It was, it was.
So that would mean episode 11 would be our recap or sorry.
Our 11th episode would be the recap, which is fine.
That's fine.
It's not a big issue, but, um.
It was almost perfect.
Episode 20 will be our.
Uh, our learned, we did research.
Oh, you know what?
No things.
Now what is it?
We should call it the scholar session and we should come in like robes and like the
tassels, the tassels on the other side.
I like that though.
That's funny.
And we got to act all like better than everybody.
Right.
Oh, yeah, sure.
I thought we already did that.
Oh, but even more so.
Right, right, right, right, right.
Just like, I think you guys do that all the time.
Yeah.
Rude.
I mean, it's not rude if it's, I guess it could be rude and true.
The truth hurts.
The truth does hurt.
Yeah.
Scholar session.
I like it.
Thank you.
Um, and then the following episode is recap.
Recap where we recap it.
Yeah, we do, man.
I'm on fire today.
Steven doesn't think so.
I can never please Steven season two.
Have I told you that when we're, when I'm driving places?
Cause I'm his slave.
You can never please him.
I can't please him.
Whoa.
I can't please him with my driving ever.
Does he do that to you?
Um, he doesn't talk to me.
Does he like you?
I can't please him with my voice.
Oh, he doesn't, you can't, I think personality doesn't.
I think if I was female, he would like me more.
Maybe a lot of men have not told me.
I was about to say.
Actually.
Who?
Cause not me.
It's, it's more like, um, wait, I don't know if I approve of this friendship anymore.
Um, I'm in danger.
What are they selling?
Uh, my brain totally turned off.
Well, you said that guys tell you often you'd be a better woman than you are a guy.
And then you said, actually, nevermind.
And then you went off into wonderland and Stephen said, I feel like.
We shouldn't be friends anymore.
And that he was in danger.
He is in danger.
All the time.
All the time.
He just doesn't know it.
He never sees it coming.
He can't really, you know, one day he'll cut us off and say, he knows he's coming before we say it.
Maybe, maybe.
Probably not.
Cause he won't see it coming.
He still, he still didn't get it.
Ah, that was so easy, Stephen.
Come on.
Don't hit me, please.
Don't.
Oh, no.
You got me.
Hit me baby.
One more time.
Actually.
Not one was good enough.
Thank you.
Good.
I'm reformed, sir.
Oh, high fives.
I get it.
Um, sorry.
I'm trying to, there we go.
Trying to carry over the notes to the next portion.
Um, so we're into the K now.
So we are into decay.
Heck yeah, dude.
So that means.
Yeah.
Time to do some math.
Yes.
I will try and extend this out here.
Oh, that's not gonna work.
Um, here, uh, since no one's on the live right now.
What?
I'm going to get you a mic that can travel with your shirt.
Oh, sure.
A little lav mic.
I think this will work.
Um, it will not work.
No.
And I'll be, I'll definitely be talking.
Give us a moment.
Poor favor.
Actually, let me put the, the mic sock that grandma so kindly knitted for us.
Uh, grandma.
I love her.
Dude.
I can't wait to do merch.
Right?
Uh, catch.
You screwed.
I wasn't ready.
Hard.
Oh, I think this might work with your mouse, by the way.
Okay.
How do we know if it's working?
Um, we don't, we have to, uh, pray and hope, uh, right now it's not working.
Um, I'll cut most of this out unless by popular demand, we need to keep it in.
I mean, it doesn't really matter.
It kind of does.
It kind of does.
Yeah, I'll cut it out.
Something like this does.
Believed to be this could be of the on the the BTS the BTS the full or the full episode
The live the live for the season once the season's over. It's gone once the season
All right, we're back everybody
That weird interrupt
You may have wondered what was going on?
What what what happened? Why does Michael sound?
stupid no, and why
Did it especially if you're listening to a podcast version of it? That isn't a live version. That's true
Yeah, if you're listening to the edited version, that's better to say. Oh
You should have saved that for the BTS. What's going on here? That's really sweet
I've had real sugar soda real fake sugar soda. Yeah
So
So now that we're back, yeah, we will be getting into this genealogy and we're gonna make our own
Timeline, oh, I like timelines, um future anybody back to the future
Back in time this time to the past
um
So starting we should start with adam. Yeah
Uh, should I put a title here what this is whatever you want? Okay. Um, oh, oh, hold on. Hold on
I gotta refocus. Well do your thing. Okay, i'm just gonna refocus the video
Uh, because it's focusing on your face. Oh, that's fair. Yeah, so i'm gonna have a focus on your hand
um
Actually, I think I can give it
Give you the ability to control. Should I have?
An eraser what here use a napkin? I have an eraser. Oh now the audience gets to see everything. Yeah, they do our
room
This is fun. Um on the go
Okay, uh, should I put a title here this is I turned on hand tracking for you
Are you sure how do you spell genealogy? Uh
G. Oh, yeah, there isn't a g e n e a l o g y genealogy
Okay line of adam genealogy
And today class we will be
It's focused on your uh, by the way, it's focused on your hands which which hand though, right? I think yeah, probably right. Yep
It's fun watching it. Um
So obviously we're starting with adam
Oh, I'd switch back
Adam, it probably should just be fixed on yeah, I could do that. Yeah. Yeah, i'll lock it in
um from adam i'm gonna i'm i'm actually gonna put
uh
Genealogy
Kane
and
And today class able but we're gonna put an x here because technically they don't
They're not they're dead they don't care we don't care about keen keen we don't know about but
But they're they're not part of this specific genealogy, right? Um, they're excluded from the
first son ness
So we got adam
And it says what does it say about adam? Um
When adam had lived 130 years
So we got 130. Let me write this down in my bible, too
If you're listening along and you're not driving and you have your bible in front of you if you'll feel free
to write in the
Margins, that's what they're for. Yeah. Um, if you feel bad about writing in your bible, that's cool, too
um, no shame
um
I would recommend buying a cheapo bible, uh, even though that's a
Not a thing. Um, but you know what I mean
Buy a bible that has margins
And that you feel comfortable marking up because it's so helpful
So helpful
All right, so i'm writing this down. So I 30 I drew an arrow
To this line right here. So adam 130 years can enable her in there somewhere
um, and then we have the way i'm gonna do it is i'm just gonna go
Should we create a graph like a timeline at the bottom? Um, well first first things first
You are the realist. Uh, and
Shouldn't we figure out how much time?
Is the total span?
So that we can figure out like say it's a thousand years
Yeah, we put a thousand years at the bottom of that thing that that whiteboard
um, and we can split it into
tenths each
each
Split would be 100 years. Well, let's do that at the end. It'll be it'll be easier to do at the end
I think because we're trying to figure out how much time notes. Yeah, okay. Okay
So adam lived 130 years and begot a son in his own likeness after his image and named him seth
After he begot seth
The days of adam were 800 years and he had sons and daughters
So all the days that adam lived were
930 years
And he died
So 800 years. Oh, yeah 800. So you lived 900 and
30 years
and we'll put
Dead dead. Okay, and then seth
Yeah, so seth, uh lived 105 years and begot enosh so 105
five
Years and we got enosh
Hmm
Okay
then then
Um seth lived
Sorry, am I on the right thing enosh? Yeah, uh after he begot enosh, uh, seth lived 807 years
Which makes it 912. Yeah. Yeah
Dead okay. Yep and enosh so wait, so let's
So right now
It's 130 years
plus 912
No, yes, are you sure? Yes, wait, wait say it again. So adam lived 130 years, right? Yeah. Yeah
So that puts his death at zero
at 130
Plus 912 years when seth dies when seth dies, but then why don't we just do uh,
um the amount of time that's that each person lives until they have kids and that's probably why they
Do it that way
So that you can add up that first number. Yeah
And you get the full but i'm saying i'm saying
As far as we we are right now, we're at a thousand years
Like that or that have happened. Oh that can have happened. Oh, yeah. Oh
That's nuts. Yeah. Wow. Goodness gracious, right?
Interesting enough i'm pretty sure let's see
Plus 912 years
Adam outlives seth I think
Because 130 plus or nine he lives 930 years
Yeah, but i'm saying my brain is running. You said outlives seth. I
Are you sure so seth lives 105 years begot enosh, um
After he begot enosh seth lived 807 years
Um in total he lived 912 years
I know i'm uh
No, no because seth is
912 uh adam
Had seth at 130
and
Wait, oh wait, I didn't write this number down. Wait. Okay. Wait, let's do this lives. So 200 and 30 years 205 years later
plus
Or sorry
At year 235 okay plus
807 or plus
Yeah, plus 807 that lands us. Um
You're doing it in a way that I wouldn't
So you're on your own i'm going to do a lot of things
Um
That puts us at
A thousand and
12 so
No, no
A thousand and 42 that's what it is. Yeah. So 1042
Is the span of time but at nine and 9 30
Okay. Yeah, you're right. So that lives. All right, never mind. Anyways, let's continue
Enosh. Yeah
Enosh lives lives 90 years
Before he has canaan
Then he lives 815 more years
So he lives a total of 905 years
Before
Uh, this is verse 9 through 11. Okay, so he only lives 805 years
So does no 905 905. Yeah. Oh
So 1042
It's going to put it nine nine 30
Okay, yeah, you're right
Let's continue
Enosh lives
Wait, wait 905 years later or he dies at 905. He dies at 905. Okay, how many years was regenerate 15?
Sorry, that was too simple of a math for me to do. Okay canon
Uh canaan, uh, it's not canon. It's like the land of canaan. So no it's not c a
Does your bible say canon? Yes, really? Let me see. Let me see this. What do you mean?
Um verse
9 um
Yeah, your bible's defective
This is canon. Yeah, it's crazy. So mine says canaan. Okay, that's a uh prime example
of I wonder what yours says for
Lamek, sorry
I wonder if anybody can take me seriously wearing that shirt. Probably not
What a beautiful
Shot of your shirt there. Yeah, right. I just got um
If you're really if you're listening to this podcast in the car first, i'm, sorry. Yeah, um second, uh,
canon, it's just
Give it give a watch. It's just a shirt action. It's just before the shirt. That's it. Canon lives 70 years
Yeah
Canaan lived 70 years and he begot me. Hello
And my gosh, i'm just gonna put uh, mh. Mhl. M h
l
from hello
Um canan son, so canon 70 years
Or canan, whatever mhl for me. Hello. This is verse 12. I mean
Yep, 840 years 840 years. Yep. What do you say stephen?
So he died at
Yeah, i'm just taking all the uh battles out. Okay
Yep, 910 total then we got 65 for mhl from the hello
Five he lives, uh, 830 after 895 total
Okay, yeah, yeah the next one jared
um
162 jared
Shout out to jared. Uh made my brother's best friend from childhood. Nice doxed. Um, they live in goodyear doxed. Uh,
I don't know if they still do i'll bleep it out. Um, he lives 800 years after uh, fathering enoch
That's nine
Can he do it folks? Wow, dude, he got it
I'm proud of you
And then enoch
enoch lives 65 years
And then had methuselah
mess
That works
Don't do math people
Only if your doctor says you can
Only when your doctor prescribes it how many years?
uh after
Yeah, okay. Uh
365 300 300. Sorry
And he lives 300
But he doesn't die right no death for that guy
Um math, um, that was the key that's why he didn't die meth
So true so true king, um
Meth lived
187 years 187 had a kid. Oops. I wrote one zero and lived
782 more years
Which is 909
Wait, nope
I screwed it up in my bible. Let me cross it out because I wrote it in pen
Yeah, guess who meth has uh,
lamek lame oh lamek
Don't do math kids climax, but if you're 18 and your doctor says so
Lamek I don't know if he has
Lamek has noah
But he lives 182 blissful years before that kid
Okay a little troublemaker him then lineups, um
He lives 500. Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait after he had no
Yeah, 595 years
So all the days of lamek
Hold on i'm still writing down some stuff here. Steven
777 sir. Wow, look at him go folks. I could have just remembered that because that's the only time that
777 yo
Remember sevens mean a lot
Yeah in the hebrew culture number of perfection. Yeah the number of completion, uh,
Like the final number the final day. Yeah creations and then emphasis and the language was to repeat it
Uh, usually three times, right? Yeah, if it's like really really really important. Yeah, let's see what I did there
Oh good
Uh, yeah
Noah was 500 years old
And then had shim ham and japeth. Okay
So starting at the beginning we'll say
Oh, you gotta move your mic mic out of the way
No, not that mic the other one. Oh this one. Yeah, I get that
Yeah that way perfect
So starting at the beginning maybe even the chair. Sorry, just push it in here's something that works
And also no just kidding go for it
Starting at the beginning. Yeah, so
We have yeah
creation
Zero zero creation is created. Yep as it usually is six days
Okay, so okay
Now in there we have Adam, right, yeah, we do
And Eve don't be sexist don't care about women. Whoa
in this time of the
In this time of line of line. Yeah
After a hundred
In 30 years, yes
well before then he has
Abel and Cain, but like where where?
Not sure
And able but then we got Seth, okay
Seth we got
A
Hundred and five years a good old one of our 235 years in
Yep, and Adam gets to see
his grandchild
Enosh yeah, yes
Enosh lives
90 yep, and then he and then that's a good 325 325
Years later Adam gets to see his great. Yeah, great grandson. Yeah, that's not stayed
Win for Adam on a great great. Great. Great. That's his son. Seth is his son. Yeah, so Enosh is his grandson
Sorry
great great
I
Mind it wrong
Because after Enosh lives 90 years then he gets to have oh
Yeah, I'm working and whatever and yeah
Shut up Stevens. He gets to see his great great grandson. You're agreeing with me saying I'm stupid and then
Wow, nice chill and then we get and we get
Canaan lives 70 years. Yeah, he lives 70 years and then we get or he has
Hello, MHL. Yep, so that's 395 years. I'm a Joe
395 years later. He gets to see his great great great grandson, huh?
Are you writing those numbers down? No, not yet. Okay
Then we got 65 years no lives before we get 65
And we get
Jared
460 years. I don't still live Adam is still alive. Yeah
460s up dude. He gets to see his great great great
Grandson goodness gracious
And then am I going up I'm going up then we got Enoch. Yeah
after
162 years 162. Yep. Where's that put us?
good old
622 years. Okay, so Adam's getting up there. Yeah, but he's still got another
Almost 300 years left. Yeah
Then Enoch has
Are you asking me 65 years? No another 65. That's interesting, right?
Does it mean something he has math rates? Ooh
First guy ever first cather ever. Let me tell you
And
He liked this so much. I never died. Never dad. Never that's 687, dude. Thanks. Yeah now we have a
hundred and eighty seven years
Mm-hmm
Methuselah waits a hundred and seven years
that child
before he has
lamb at all Lamech
or Lamech
Okay, that's a hundred and seventy four years
874 years
Let me get this straight Adam gets to see his great great. I'm sorry
Yeah, his great great great great great great grandchild. How many greats was that five?
One two, three, four five six six greats later. That's nuts. And then Lamech has Noah
182 years 182 so
No, it's dead. No, it's not not Noah's. Yeah, Noah's dad. I said dead. Sorry
Adam's dead. Adam is dead
What is this 182 that's a thousand fifty six years a thousand fifty six years
Okay, so we're so 126 years too late to see Noah. So we're at
1000 how much
Years in total here. Yeah in total. That's that's the year that Noah was born is a thousand fifty six
So somewhere in here and then Lamech has Noah Adam dies. Yeah
Now in there that's accurate
But now at 930 at 930, yeah, so how many years before
Noah is that how many years before no before Noah before Noah was born. Yeah
Gosh
We just got to subtract
126 so
That's 126 years, yeah now when does
Seth time he he died
912 years old
912 let's place it on the timeline though. It is gonna be on the timeline, but you're doing in a weird way
I'm in a way that I would not do it. That's great
So
so
912 how many years go by for him? You mean Oh after Adam dies, so we're talking first natural deaths here
So yes, well not first, but so Adam dies at
930 that's 930 years
after creation
so
I've got to do is take
Years that Seth lived at the hundred and thirty
That Adam took to have him. So that's almost
That's four years after Noah was born. Oh good point. So after is born we have a way after no, that's
He dies before Noah's born because no, I'm stupid six. I'm sipping. You're right
So it's like 14 years before Noah's born set that 14 years before Noah. Yeah
Seth that's
14 years, I'm gonna say the end
And he dies at 912
Yeah, okay, then we got Enos
He lives to 905 905. Yeah, and that's gonna add the 105 and the 130
Adam and Seth and that's 1140 1140. Okay, so this is
Wow, this is so 16 years she for Noah
When the flood is yeah, cuz was there people in his family line that died with the flood
Let's find out
Yeah, we'll do this. Mm-hmm. I'm actually gonna make this
Okay
Longer so I didn't realize that we had so many people dying before Noah was even gone
So Noah was 600 years old when the floodwaters were on the earth
What a prime prime number, but it's not even Prime's purpose, you know, I mean, so we got
Then we got
Enos yeah lived
And a five which is how many that's
Yeah, yeah, which is 16 years
Before Noah, I already told you this number 1140. I know I haven't I haven't written it down
Yeah, wait, wait 16 years before Noah. Yes. No, no Enos dies. That's is 14 years before Noah
Yeah, you know is at
timeline from zero
1140 years
Yeah 140 years, yeah
So that's six. That's after Noah's born
one thousand one thousand one hundred
Yeah
Okay
140 so actually here we're gonna we're doing this before and after Noah
So how many years after Noah is that?
Good question
Um
140 minus
That's 84. Oh
84 years, that's 84 a.m
Yeah
after Noah Noah
and we have
84 years. We have the death of what's-his-name?
Enosh
Enosh who lived to be on a hundred nine or five. Mm-hmm. Okay, son. Kanan lives a total of 910 years
So he lived and
When does that where does that land us? Oh
Hold on math here
130 plus
105 of Seth's plus the 90 of
Enosh
We're talking about cannon, right? Yeah, okay, so that's places on 1235 but on the Noah
Timeline if we're going that way minus one. Oh five six, right?
1056 years that's a hundred and seventy nine years after Noah's born
79 years
Yeah
K&N for some reason
Would
Number 84
Yeah, 84 84
That's a different way
all right, and then
Shannon came in
as Mahalo Mahalo
Yeah
lives to the primal age of
895 fights
and if we add Adams and
Seth's and enosh's time before they have kids plus canons, which is 70 that is
1290 minus
1056 I think I'm math that wrong. Oh
Let's see
Mmm. Nope, I did not
234 years
234 years after Noah's born all after Noah. Oh
Oh
Yeah, 84 and 179 after Noah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
We're just gonna have to do some yeah, that's fine. Okay, I mean I'm after
What's what's 234 minus 179?
55 okay, that doesn't mean anything. Okay, that's a good
Now we're looking at Jared looking at Jared lives to 962 years
Yes
And that is
7065 minus 1056. That is 366 years after Noah's born
960 teasers
Yeah, okay, then we got
366 no, no that the amount of time that Gary live
Yeah, 895 and then we got you not wait 962. Yeah, you knock
It lives to 365 rights
Well, he lives till now
How many years is that let's just say 6,000 years
Sure, because he's still oh
Years, so he definitely dies before Jared, huh? No, he's gone from this dimension
From this place, right? All right, you know, he leaves
He lives seen. All right, wait, he dies before Jared. He didn't know you knock does not die
God takes on hunch. I'm going to hurt you. When does he not believe he leaves the scene?
How many years after let me do the math calm down, dude. Yeah chill
Do you know how to math like I know how to math you're using technology. Yeah, so
Sure at least it's not AI. Oh
So he definitely died
What hold on that I
Screwed that up hard. Okay. Give me a second. I just realized that we should have been putting the
When does he not believe the difference between these?
How many years after
She
You're using technology
Hundred and it's 987. Oh
It does make sense. Okay, I didn't mess it up the first time. So hold on
69 years before Noah's born
What he knock is taken off the scene 69 years before Noah is born oh
Yeah, so
Gosh, so we got me zoom in for everybody. He knocked he does it 365
And that's how many years?
Oh
Wait 69 69 before oh, so he dies even before
Set you didn't die. Oh my gosh. Shut up. Gotta be technically correct here. He went to heaven. There you go
He did not die dad no just because you go to heaven does not mean you died
Physical body died. How about that? No, I did not it had to
No, it did not have to we should talk about that. Oh my gosh
That's how many 96 92 69 69
For no, okay. Oh my god, jimmy's free. That's crazy
So
Now we got methuselah
Um 187 a year. Well, hold on 969 years and then he dies
Yeah, so that's give me a minute
It's a good thing I wrote down all these numbers in my bible, otherwise this would take forever
um
Almost there loading loading loading 600 years even after after noah what is born?
Yep, 600 years. What's you know, what's nutty about that one?
lives, uh
Uh, he he's 600 when the flood comes
It's coincidence. That's crazy
probably um
Probably how many so previously it was 360 how many years in between?
Uh
Mhl's
Mahalo's death. Yep, and meth steps how many years between mahalo and meth? Yeah, 600
minus 366 isn't that like 200 and
Wait, what'd you say? 30? It's 234. No one. Okay, whatever you said, what did you say? Uh, okay then from
Maths death talamic. Yep
Uh, well lameck lives
A total of 777. Yes
so previously it was oh
Does he not?
What hold on? Okay. No continues
Dude i'm gonna know all these numbers after this. Yeah, you are
Not dude i'm gonna kill at like bible trivia
In this very thing. Jimmy's freaking out
Yeah, jimmy gave up. No, he's looking at your hand. Why is he looking at my hand? Because your face is
Not good enough for radio what happens in being fixed on one area? Yeah, he's fixed on your hand
You can't just fix them in this area. No, they'd be boring
my god
Um, wait, I added 182 when I shouldn't have to lameck you distracted me sir
Hold on. Uh, that's what what I came out to 595
After noah, okay. Yeah make
Yeah, it does because he only lived to be on all right
He's like 200. Oh, he died in the flood
Holy crud probably right? No, because then lameck then methuselah couldn't have lived to 969. No, he could have
no
Okay, let's do that
Noah's born. Uh
After he but got noah lameck lived 595 years and so he lived 777 years, uh
Oh, I guess he yeah, yeah, so he died five years before the flood so wait wait when
He said nine or 595
Uh after noah is born. Yeah
okay, um
I'm sorry. I'm an idiot. I didn't have to do the math for that. The bible literally says 595
Where see you don't have to agree with me
But that no no no but years after
Noah it says that yeah
595 years after noah was born. Yeah, so he lives 595 years after noah's born. Oh, look at that. Yeah, and we got is uh
When I looked up 600 years, uh, like looked up when the flood is it says noah was 600 years old
So his dad died five years before otherwise, we probably would have seen lameck on the boat
Okay, uh, then we got
Math this is 27
Math lived to 969. No, it says that
995 595 was born. So he lives five years. Um
And then
Continues okay
Interesting
So
Adam is still the first to die, but enoch is the second to die
Isn't that crazy? So how many years are we at total? We're at?
Hold on. We keep saying enoch died and he did not okay. It doesn't matter. We don't he's not on this earth
He is dead to the world
Yeah, you know what the viewers see you as oh my gosh, who is that parent?
You know what? They see you as right now the best
Awesome how many years okay, so it's 1656 years
Wait, you lost me. What's that's how long?
um
So that's how long the earth has been around once
Methuselah has died still the first to die. He's the last one to die in this genealogy
Okay. Well of the noah. No, obviously lives. No, no, no. No lameck is the last one, right? No, really?
Oh, yeah, we covered this. Yes, we did that. This was the last one to die. Yeah 969 years. Uh-huh
um
Nice, so the earth has been around at that point
1656 years
How many thousand how many how many one thousand six hundred and fifty six years goodness gracious brother
Are you sure because my math came out to?
1651 years, uh when
Lamek died. So how many years?
After did methuselah die? Well other than five years after that. Oh, okay. Wow. Easy math
Wait a minute. Does that mean methuselah died in the flood?
I think that means the methuselah died in the flood 969 years. Well if
If noah had to be 600 years old then he would have died
Because yeah, yeah lameck had noah what a fine dude no in the slud. Oh
That's crazy in the 600
Year of noah's life in the second month on the seventh day of the month on that day all the fountains of the great deep
First fourth. Yeah, 600 years 600 years. Yeah, the the flood happens. That's why
Methuselah dies. That's crazy blood. So six
That's crazy blood so six
sixteen hundred and fifty six years
after creation
and we have
The flood well, and let me double check that number. So it had to be 600 years
Uh 65 again in the 600
Uh 187
On that day all the fountains of the great deep and then lameck, which is 182
Wait, wait, wait, wait. I only need to do methuselah because lameck lives doesn't live as long. Okay, so six
What no, no, it's it's from lameck to noah being born is 182 years
Yeah, you're right. You're right
Then so I could do this plus the uh, 782, uh, that's
That methuselah lived so yeah, right 1656
Total of 1656 years, how long does it take for a near perfect society to become completely cursed?
Apparently at least a thousand years
At least a thousand
Wow, yeah
That's crazy. Thanks for all that stuff down. That was a lot. It's a little messy. Yeah
No, it's not. I mean, no
Beautiful. No, uh
Um
I don't know. Are there any other things that we uh missed or could write down? So hold on. Okay, so adam
Adam got to see
All the way up to lamex, so how many grandchildren was that one two, three, four five six seven
You got to see seven grandchildren. Whoa
And it's sorry first first grandchildren because they had everybody had sons and daughters
That's crazy after that right. How many did they have is the question? Yeah, dude if they had one of each after that's
21 grandchildren
The other children, right well i'm saying if they have one of
One one each one each of the sexes after that. That's three times seven
No, it's uh
All the way up to the land. How many grandchildren is that one two, three, four five? I would say at least four
Just to keep it
Sorry, okay
So then that's 28
Able to have other families. Sure. Then that's instead of just following like from seth to enosh
It'd be seth, you know, uh has enosh
Uh in his line. Yeah, that's everything here. Well us everybody else. So that's um
Plus the the x so seven seven generations
Times what is that called seven factorial i'm saying
I left. Um, that's three times calculus. I never got the calculus. Yeah. Yeah, I left calculus pre-calculus fine. Yeah
Should we call my brother? No, it'd be hilarious. Oh, wait, he's asleep so you can't do that. Well, um
I think it's factorial, uh, I could be wrong but uh,
essentially that idea of like
Uh
Adam
Has seth so we're not we're discounting kane and abel abel's dead kane is evil
Uh family that we're not counting here. Uh, but seth has enosh plus another family at least
um, so that's uh
Adam then has his son. Um, and
enosh his grandson and
This other person who is enosh's brother
Ancestor or this other couple? Yeah, and then on and on so if you imagine the other
has
This math is hard
I thought we were smart, but we're not we're not uh, it's a lot of math. How about that? Yeah
um
so
It's it's something I just realized enosh
Got to meet noah
Yeah, the man that got to the man that got to walk with god yeah got to meet noah
How long
How long was he alive?
after
I'm, sorry. I'm i'm sorry. He died. This is this is pointed to him dying right before
Oh, no, he didn't get to meet noah. I'm, sorry. Yeah. Yeah, he died before noah years before. Yeah, right
So seth seth and enoch died
Before noah was born when seth came along. That's when people started calling the name of the lord. Oh
Oh, no, not necessarily. Um, that's what that's what it says. Seth was born
And then that's when people started calling the name of the lord
I got another seed for me instead of abel who mccain killed and asked for seth to him
Also, a son was born and he named him enosh then then began to call on the name of the lord
Then then began to call on the name of lord. No, not when seth is born when seth has enosh. Oh
Okay
I just think that's interesting that enoch dies before noah comes along
That's why it's a certain call. Yeah
What he didn't die oh my gosh i'm going to hurt you good
Um
I don't know. Are there any other things we get?
Oh, I don't think we're missing anything. Um, there's a note here, uh from this bible i'm reading
Uh, let me read it and see if there's anything worthwhile. I'll take a picture of this. Hey, uh, steven. Do you want to figure out?
Uh approximately how many
How many grandchildren adam would have had before he died before noah comes along using ai while i'm doing this and sure michael's doing that
Thanks, man. What? Okay. I'll just read this instead of just leaving better. It's titled ages of the patriarchs
by dr. David
minton and dr. Georgia perdomes
For 1500 years after creation men lived such long lives that most were either contemporaries of the first man adam
or personally knew someone who was 10 patriarchs excluding enoch who preceded the great flood lived an average of
912 years they make died the youngest at the age of 770
777 there we go and the fusilla lived to be the oldest at 969 years old
During the 1000 years following the flood
However, the bible records a progressive decline in the lifespan of the patriarchs from noah who lived to be 950
Years old until abram. Sorry abraham at 175 years old
In fact, moses was unusually old for this time for his time
And which was 120 years
Because when he reflected on the brevity of his life
He said the days of our lives are 70 years and if by reason of strength, they are 80 years
Yet their boast is only labor and sorrow for it is soon cut off and we fly away. That's psalms
90 verse 10 did not know he
Actually, I didn't know that hero psalms
um
Yeah, that's that's
The lifespan is that the patrons refer to noah who had to be 150 years to tell me
that's interesting, but I don't know if we
I think we've covered all of that. Yeah
I feel like there's hidden gems in here that we're just not seeing that yeah need time to digest this trying to think of
What else it should be
Songs
Dang a thousand fifty six years after creation. We have no
Oh, I didn't put where um
Hamsham and chef
Yeah, it's 500 years after
What else should be all right finally framed up your whiteboard for you
Ha ha at the very end. Yeah, well just so people can see the whole thing, right?
Okay
And 100 years before the flood
Is when they were born that's when
That's when noah was told that the flood would happen was like 120 years before so he's like 480
God's like yo, i'll all have been
Wicked as hell
And i'm gonna destroy the entire earth
um
And then he he's like, hey wife we need to make some laborers
Build this boat to save our butts
Oh, man
Does it say flood?
Oh, yeah
uh, then the lord said my spirit shall not bind man forever for his
Flesh. Oh, no, that's just how long he didn't live say when they were born. It was 500 years after
Or it doesn't say when when noah was told yeah, yes it does, uh, I would argue it does
Get there real quick
Thanks
Here we are
chapter 6 verse 3 through 4, I think
And the lord said my spirit shall not strive with man forever for
He is indeed flesh yet his days shall be 120 years
their uh
period
There were giants on the earth in those days blah blah blah blah
So I was wrong. It's just first three and the lord said my spirit shall not strive with man forever for he is indeed flesh
Yet his days shall be 120 years
Here's the context the first one
Now it came to pass when the men began to multiply on the face of the earth and the daughters were born to them
That the sons of god, uh
This is talking about the nephilim, huh? Yeah. No, it's not. No, it's not
They said their daughters were born to them and that the sons of god saw the daughters of men that they were beautiful
And they took wives for themselves
Then the lord said
Of all whom they chose and then the lord said yeah, um, and then also verse 5
That might be talking yeah, I think that is talking about the nephilim my version here isn't bleeding on about it though. Um,
Verse 5 then the lord said that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every intent
Of the thoughts of his hearts were only evil continually
The lord was sorry that he had made man on the earth and he grieved
And he grieved in his hearts
So the lord said I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth both man and beasts creeping
Bang and birds of the air for I am sorry that I had made them that I have made them
But noah found grace in the eyes of the lord
This is the genealogy of noah noah was just a man perfect in his generation
uh generations
Uh, that's interesting. That's perfect in his generation. So not necessarily perfect perfect, right?
um, noah walked with god and noah begot three sons shem ham and japheth the earth was
The earth is gonna read the whole chapter. I'm gonna read it. Yeah, it's a lot of context the whole chapter
No, not the whole chapter. Um, the earth was also
erupt before
Uh, the earth also was corrupt before god and the earth was filled with violence
So god looked upon the earth and indeed it was corrupt for all flesh had corrupted their
Their way on the earth. God said to noah. I'm almost done
God said to noah
The end of all flesh has come before me for the earth is filled with violence through them and behold. I will destroy them
With the earth make yourself an arc blah blah blah blah the instructions on how to make it. Um
So I read all of that because uh
It's necessary context of verse three
In the words of my spirit shall not strive with man forever for he is indeed flesh yet. His days shall be 120 years
because most people read and like that last part, uh, yet his days shall be
120 years and they think
That that means god was like man will only live 120 years
And yes, that is what he was saying literally but in the context of the flood
is
It means this is the way that i've heard interpreted and this is my opinion as well. Um,
that
God was saying all of mankind except for noah and his family have 120 years left to live
Before I flood and destroy the entire earth
That's a huge fact, no, it's not if if this
Then is there in verse three
Then that's a huge stretch
I missed what you were trying to say in verse three. It says then
The lord said and the lord said I I read and the lord said
Okay. So what's the actual word?
You want to look that up right now? Yeah. Well, this is a conversation for way later
Reason I bring this up
Um
If I can remember shut up
Yeah
You bring it up and then I forget
Because it takes a conversation for another time. Why don't you bring it up?
well, there was I was using it as a point because I knew that
Yeah, you just
You both might disagree. You just you just read
Almost the entirety of genesis of genesis 6. Yes, we're going to
You don't just read an entire thing and say yeah, we're just gonna leave that alone until we get there
I was making psalms. What's the action? Yeah, it does. What do you mean? You don't make any sense. Um
All right, so noah is 500 years old, uh, that's where I got this so on the board you wrote down
Something like 500. Yeah 500 years before he has ham shiv and jay fifths
uh
And god tells him if this is true 120 years before
Uh before the flood god is saying to himself
Um, I can't stand this
I'm gonna i'm i'm
promising
To myself that man will not
Live beyond 120 years
um
Because i'm going to flood the entire earth and destroy it. Um, then that means noah
was
That's correct 480 years old
That was it. That was my entire point because the flood comes at 600 like noah's 600 years old
If this verse is interpreted that way 120 years to the flood
then that means about
120 years before he's 600 which is 480 years old god comes to noah and says hey i'm going to destroy the entire earth
uh
get
your family and everybody
uh
Beyond yeah, okay, so get them together. It'll build the ark so
Shows here and said
they chose
shall strive
not yaweh
forever
with man my spirit
flesh
he is
for indeed
100 is days
And yet shall be years and 20
on the earth
were
on the earth
That doesn't really tell me much
so
The word here
for
Whatever it says at the very beginning of verse three is said yeah, and the lord said right
Um, and then he says shows here
and said that they chose
Shall strive not yaweh
Forever oh, this is supposed to go there. That's right. Um
Shall not strive with yaweh forever
um
years
Because they are flesh my spirit shall not thrive because they are flesh
For indeed their years will be
the word here, uh on the earth for
Um, that's exactly what this verse says there so you're reading the original language, yes, okay
um
but there's
in the context
Of everything that was said before they chose
And everything that's said after
It's talking about them. It's talking about the nephew kids. Uh, okay nephilim I can get that shall not strive with yaweh
so nephilim are going on whether that's
Demons, um perforating with humans
or
It's just really really evil people. We can cover that. Um, the man that is referenced here though
Is human kind?
Okay
or mankind
Uh, because it says man or mankind human
Well, it even says that we just talked about
right
so
His spirit shall not strive
With man, so mankind forever
Um because he is flesh
so
Even still
if if
Because to get to where what you're talking about in order to say that there was 120 years
Because there's there's no through line here
It goes it goes
Chapter 5
Ends with noah 500 years. He has children and then
It says when man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, right?
And then
It continues
in verse 9 to talk about
verse 9
In verse 9 of chapter 6. Yep
This is the gene genealogy talks about no. Yeah
So this is sort of like what I see as a side tangent it's like oh by the way
Well these genealogy like all these people are living. Um,
god is
Thinking to himself this god is saying to himself this
uh
As he's watching
This particular portion of history that's occurring during this one thousand six hundred fifty six years
Uh, which is the nephilim it says when man or these ridiculously evil people
Um, right and he
And then says to himself
What have I done? I'm gonna destroy all of it
and then
cutscene noah
And his family
And that ties in perfectly with what we saw in the genealogy
Uh, and noah was 500 years old and noah had jim m and j fifth
Noah was just a man
Perfect in his generations noah walked with god and noah begot three sons jim ham and j fifth
The earth was also correct and it goes on
So you could literally just go from verse 32
skip
Uh that verse in chapter 6
Where verse 32 is basically repeated
and continue
and so
That being said what do you think of that like this is a like noah's
Like it's obviously verse 5 chapter 5 is zooming into noah and his family for some reason
um
And then we see
a cut to a different
scene
Where god is watching the earth? Yeah, and
Evil is happening
And he's talking to himself
And then cut back to noah
So is this am I taking this statement out of context?
Yeah, or is the bible saying like purposely putting this extra scene
um
That happens outside of time outside of history because that's just who god is. Um
Like this is because it should be there. Well, the the major the major issue
is that
After the flood
Peace
Creates a major issue for your
Argument because after the flood immediately after the flood every line
does not live
Beyond 120 beyond 101. That's not true
other than
specific people right that we
So what you're saying is um
God here is saying he's making a promise. Can we agree on that?
So if we don't agree on that, that's fine
He's making a promise
Man's not going to live 120 more years mankind mankind will not live beyond 120 years, right?
So if mankind isn't going to live 120, that means as a whole and like as a whole people
We're not gonna live 120 years or like more than that, right?
Does not live
Wouldn't that mean that no one would ever live past 120 years?
This does not seem like a generality to me. This seems like a promise and very specific one
Like in the original, uh text you read 100 years
Plus a plus 20
And when that happens to me, it seems like it's being very specific
um
I could be wrong about that part, but
I would think that no one would live past 120 and we see people living past 120. It's not common
but shouldn't that be because
Of the flood not because of what got said
Because of the choke point, I mean
It's a it's noah's family and then now there's a bunch of quote-unquote incest between noah's family
and that
Chokes the gene line. Um
Which we all know is a bad thing and that's why it's illegal and that's why it's weird and that's why it's
like even talking about this is strange, um, because it's dangerous it causes
I would think that
Messed up people
right
causes human suffering
and so
We go from thousands and thousands of people maybe millions of people probably millions of people
uh to
Somewhere around 10. I don't know
It's and then also the firmament's gone, um people think that that's like the
Uh, the sky was covered with like a cloud of sorts or maybe the oxygen levels were higher
um in the pre-flood era
Whatever the conditions were they were more perfect
than after being completely rocked
by
Flood waters coming from the deep that apparently have been there all along and the entire sky of waters
crashing down on the entire
So
Couldn't the damage
To the earth the irreparable damage
To the earth the the damage that caused pangea to split into the continents that we know today
people think that that's
have
changed the environment in a way that
It did not allow people to live long
in that new environment
And the reason I also say that is because we see noah live for more than 120 years after the flood
um shem's descendants
a bunch of them live
So two of them
Chapter 10 or chapter 11 chapter 11. Okay. So shem was 100 years when he fathered arch far pashad
Um, and he lived he fathered 500 years and had other sons and daughters. Isn't there anything about him dying? That's right
Um, and 403 years for arborshad 403 years forever
um
430 years
for pelag
rue 209
surig 207 nahor 200
And tara 119
Tara oh, sorry. So two of them. Hey or 119
Another oh, okay. So shem. Oh sarah 200. Am I reading this wrong?
Oh, he lived 207 years after
30 years. Yeah. Okay. So 230 and then tara lit
uh
Three years arborshad the days of tara were 205 years and tara died in haran
430 years so like, uh, rue 209
I mean
Undeniably the amount of time that people lived was cut in half. Yeah, like immediate years after absolutely
uh, it wasn't 120
The day the
these are the days of
These are the days of the years of abraham's life
175 years. Okay, it'd be interesting to time to map that out to like how many years beyond the flood was this? Yeah
Um, yeah, I think we'll definitely do that. Yeah after once we get there
Um, or unless we need to map it out to make a point here, um
So is it more likely that god is saying this is 120 years to the flood
Or is it more likely? Uh, god is saying man will live about 120 years from now
I mean I can see it going both ways
because
Obviously, we know how long we live now. We also know
that when
God says something
She is declaring it
but that doesn't mean that
It is going to happen that instant
right
so
I mean
The best example in the bible is the very beginning
He says you will surely die. They didn't die. They lived another
Adam lived 930 years. That one seemed pretty straight like black and white, right? But but right
Right after the flood suddenly the amount of time that everybody's living is halved
Which is crazy because they're living almost a thousand years each
and and right before this we had
Who only died?
Is because because the flood yeah, so it seems as though he could have lived longer. Yeah
And he was the he was the oldest
Out of all of them he lived the longest so it almost seemed as though they could live longer
I think noah was probably going to live longer, too
Because he lived to 950 years old. Sure. Um, so he was 600
When the flood happened
Where's the
When the jim ham and jay fist died, did you find that?
Uh, I did not find that
I don't know if it says it it does
Had only died because because the flood so it seems as though he could have lived longer. Yeah
And he was he was the oldest. No, that's not talking about yours here. Uh, oh that's talking about the uh, the nations. Yeah
Huh? Yeah. Yeah
The nations that's another one we're gonna have to map out that's that's a fun one
um
I have
Oh 600 years, uh, they lived 600 fam lived 600 years because it says in 11 verse 10
These were generations of family family was 100 years. He fathered
Arpithead two years after the flood and shem lived
After he fathered arpithead 500 years
So he lived 600 years
Yeah, um doesn't say
i'm not seeing
I don't think it matters because the other shem is the eldest. Yeah. Yeah
um
Interesting. So 600 years so that's not necessarily in half but also
He could have lived
Well, but he he lived
100 before
Yeah, and then cut in half
from that
When people are probably shooting for like 1100
years old now
at the point of the flood
um
So maybe half or a little like maybe like 40 percent
Yeah, something like that
Because noah lives 300 more years
Uh starting at 600
So 350 years actually, yeah, where does it say when noah died?
600 years. Oh, okay right before chris
Or chapter 10 after the flood noah lived 350 years. Yeah
950 he died
That's crazy
and
So if you're if you're
Half serious, right? Then noah would have lived. Um, because noah lives 300
I'm, just gonna ground down to 300. It's like 650 more years
Um after 600 so 1250 years
If the flood did not destroy the environment. Oh, okay
Anyways, huge side tangent. This should be for another episode. I mean, we're gonna talk about it again. But yeah, um
But I mean I can I can see it. I can see it going
Either way is 120 years to the flood steven. What do you think because you were against that too, right?
Um
No on the 120 so when I said, uh
God when god was talking to himself and said man won't live past 120 years
and me I said that means
the
God is saying
I'm gonna flood the entire earth and kill everybody in 120 years
you were
If I remember right adamantly against that
I don't know if I was I don't know
Well, you were I was I was hesitating. Yeah, it's just like
maybe
It's a good possibility after we walked through though. No
As you were explaining it
So you're ripping me a new one
While you're thinking, okay
I mean
The struggle is to pull that out
It took a lot in between the word in between the several verses that are
And then and then to prove that it's not what you what most people think it is
Yeah, so it took a lot of effort the word the word
mankind
Is the most convincing for me, but it's also
the biggest roadblock
Because if if it says that their years mankind will not be more than 120
And then immediately after the flood
We see the descent into that
Yeah
the the years
the amount of years after
Moses at that time of like 70 and 80 if you remember
psalms 90 verse 10 he says, uh
Uh
This this article here says that uh, moses was unusually old, uh for his time right 120 years
uh, because and he died because
God killed him, right? Um
Is the most convincing for me, but it's also he says in psalms
The days of our lives are 70 years
Or about 80. Mm-hmm. So both. Yeah
And that's more accurate to our day now, yeah, and that's
We don't know how many years and but but now we get people
every now and again who live 110
I think there's someone
Around or that there has been someone around that's lived. Maybe 230
130. Oh, um steven. Can you look that up? Because oh, did you find the answer to the other thing too?
um
Not necessarily
I don't know if it's the answer but it's it's a answer. He's gonna have an answer at all. So
We should do this first. Um
This is being more generous
Or I guess realistic that's
so
40 children each
Child has six children after that. We're looking around
240 grandchildren 240. Really? I think it's doing the math wrong. He said 40 children. Yeah
Wait, why does he has 40 children? I thought you said four
40 you know i'm said 40
I I'm at four
Yeah. Yeah, let's see here. Let me
Pull up gpt on my phone too so we can have it talk to us
Hey there. Um, so we're talking about adam and eve and uh his family. So seth dinosh
Uh kenan or kanan, uh, hello jared and so on
and we're wondering um if
everybody was mentioned, um and say adam and eve had uh, both seth and uh, another
um
family, uh that also had grandchildren and their grandchildren had grandchildren and
Since adam lived to what was it? Michael 930
930 30 years old and saw seven great
Grandchildren, I think it was. Yeah. Um
Then how many people?
Would that be it's a fun thought experiment?
The bible doesn't give us a full list of everyone adam and eve might have had what we do get are key
Descendants like seh through whom certain genealogies are traced
But if you imagine adam and eve living 930 years and having many children as implied
The potential number of descendants would balloon quickly if each generation had multiple children and those children had their own
This would grow exponentially
Even if each generation only had a handful of children after hundreds of years
You'd be looking at thousands or tens of thousands
We can't pin down an exact figure from the text. But if you imagine family growth over centuries
You'd end up with a vast population
Can you give me like an estimate?
All right
Let's play with some hypothetical math
Imagine each generation had say five kids on average and each generation have been roughly every 30 years
Over 900 years you might have about 30 generations if each generation multiplied by five each time it grows rapidly
The numbers would shoot up into the millions easily now, of course
Not all would survive or have descendants and this is just a simple exponential model
But even with modest assumptions you'd likely imagine tens or even hundreds of thousands of descendants after that many centuries
Yeah, that sounds right honestly, so they walk into a village it's like oh hey i'm related to everyone here
Literally and this is just five generations in that's crazy, dude
And then but then things
There's other
Like Wow, no, they're what
Well, no, okay, so this is this is from Adam
chief
Can you imagine being out of any grandchildren when how Adam died
So they walk into a village. It's like oh like I'm related to everyone here. What was it?
126 years before
Five generation. Oh was born. Yeah crazy. So
And then but then that's more than halfway
to the flood yeah, and
And
He's probably already seeing he's like man, so my grandchildren not doing too hot we're and we're
Yeah
We've got the line of cane too and
Wow
Adam died
they're just traveling from
one village or town or whatever to another
And they're just like, huh, it's a really changed
Yeah
To the flood and
He's probably
We are three hours 21 minutes
Yeah, but we had like a half hour there where we were setting things up over for this for decay
I can you up and everything, right?
So
Wow, yeah
There's a lot here. I think the reason why most people don't get into it is because there's a lot. Yeah
To think it's boring there
Because a lot of today felt a little bit boring
I mean, it's definitely not our usual content. No, it's definitely not usual
It's definitely slower because you have to like really think about it. Yeah, it's the first algebra. It's when God created algebra. Yeah
here's
What I
You're done with the board, this is my final thought am I done with the board? Yeah, you can back up. No
No, I'm done. Okay, you want to switch mics?
Okay, there's a lot pull that mic off, huh?
I think
Nah, it's muted. Oh, you're good. You don't even need a pull it off. Honestly. I just wanted you to do it
Wanted to see if I can control you
Don't like that
Sounded strange it did. It's the first I did not like it at all. I
Take it back. Yeah, I should have said it good. I'm sorry
This one back up. Yep. Yeah
So I just had this thought and the thought is
God knew
The flood was coming. Yeah, if the flood wasn't coming if
the years a few the
Few decades before Noah's death were really ramping up
The
Flood is gonna happen Noah's born
Lamech says what he says
He says out of the ground that the Lord has cursed
This one shall bring us relief from our work and from the painful toil of our hands somehow Lamech
Wanted something or understood something. Oh
That was going on. Oh
Do you think?
that
the first
Natural death in this lineage
With Adam. Do you think that this is a mercy?
from certain evils
Yeah
Like the the shortening of lives. Well, I mean or the ending of
Specifically of all these times. Yeah, I would think so
Because I I think about Enoch as well and he only lived
365 years. He is the youngest out of all these people. Mm-hmm short of
Anybody's got killed or stillbirths or or you have people killed or whatever?
And
He is at the tail end, right? He's walking with God. He's at the tail end right before the flood
And God takes him right before the final of like Methuselah
Who I imagine is probably the most evil evils. Yeah, I think it talks about Methuselah later
Yeah as being one of the most evil
Which is weird
Well, it what's interesting too is we think about the Kings. Yeah, it's the line of Kings
Mm-hmm, and it's I imagine that this is probably similar probably and especially as humans
Yeah, especially if we look at the line of Cain being mixed in with this and the influence that they would have
What that's what verse 6 means
with the the men
Multiplying on the face of the earth daughters being born to them
So I'm seeing that those daughters were beautiful and taking wives for themselves
So the mixing of the lines of Seth and Cain it talks about hmm
Because you know how God told Israel don't marry into the cultures around you because they're
They're following these
Demons Oh interesting. You're you're taking not gods a different approach to the idea of sons of God
Yeah, and you're saying that maybe the sons of God are from the line of Seth, but they are seeing the line of Cain
Yeah
Beautiful hmm, which
Might be the reason why that random
girl is
Is is mentioned from the line of Lamech? Oh crap
Nothing's placed randomly that's kind of wild. Yeah, but that and just as to fill in anybody who's listening and not
In chapter 22 and what we're saying
What is it again chapter 4 verse 22 22 you wanna read it?
Zilla also bore to Volcain. He was the forger of all instruments of bronze and iron
The sister of to Volcain was namaz and our sisters ever mentioned before this
Not one and in fact not after
except for maybe later, yeah down the line, but
Extremely rare it does mention daughters. It does mention daughters, which is hey feminism
But
That's interesting and daughters and wives now
Because because especially when it says that people began to call upon the name of the Lord after Enos. Mm-hmm
that does
Grant the idea of the sons of God
I mean
Historically we we think about
Angels or demons
When it when we think of the yeah of sons of God sons of God, yeah
And so sons of God fallen angels
Marrying the
human women trading the Nephilim
Which we're not taking off the table
it does technically say that the Nephilim were on the earth in those days and
we're also in in 6 verse 4
Mine says there were giants on the earth in those days. Yep
That's weird
but it does say the Nephilim were on the earth in those days and
also afterward might even when the sons of God came into the daughters of man and
They bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were yeah, so there it might so let me read mine
This is in KGB
There were giants on the earth in those days and also afterward when the sons of God came into the daughters of men and they bore
Children to them. Those were the mighty men who were all of old men of renown. So I'm wondering if Nephilim is just the
Transliteration, I well I wonder if
Nephilim are more like they're just monsters that are kind of chillin like they're
or whatever kind of like how horses and
Donkeys can
Can mate but it's just a bad. I'm saying like
The Nephilim are there it's saying the Nephilim are here. Yeah, and also
the sons of God so it could still be
the line of Seth are
mating and having children with
so it could be both interpretations those and and because
The Nephilim are in the world who are evil came from as far as we know the Nephilim are evil. Yeah
This the sons of God are mighty men possibly taking on the Nephilim hold on
Explain that mighty man like so you know enough one. These were the mighty men who were of old the men of renown so
The idea I'm thinking is that Nephilim big monster. Those are the Giants on earth in those days
Yes, and and think of think of like going on major on a huge quest. I'm a man of renown
Oh, I see what you're doing. Okay. Okay, a son of God and I'm fighting the demons. Yeah
Yeah, right. Okay. I'm seeing it. So verse 4 there were Giants on the earth in those days
Yeah marker and also afterward another marker before and after what Daniel the sons of God when the sons of God
Who's I don't know they're just called sons of God came into the daughters of men and
They bore children to them. So if they're sons of God and they're
Marrying the daughters of men, why are these
like they probably
Don't I mean, I feel like they have to be other
Other dudes like humankind. Yeah. So why are they distinguished? Yeah, probably because line of Cain line of Seth
Like what you're saying
and then those
those ones
who
were born of the line of Seth and Cain were called the mighty men the men of old and
the men of renown
If we also think about
Killing okay Cain is murder wait
Could the Giants be talking about people or animals
It would be people are you sure well, there were Giants on earth in those days if your version also a science
Yeah, what did you say? This is Nephilim. Okay, so it could be Nephilim or it says or Giants
Okay in the subtext. Okay, so
If it's Giants and we all assume like giant people. Mm-hmm, which time people did exist
Goliath, yeah, but
Maybe giant people existed before the flood just kind of like animals were huge. Sure before the flood. Yeah
We'll have to come up with some examples for the flood docks because there's some weird ones like bugs being massive
I mean just look at the the fossil record quote-unquote like
Think of those massive animals all over the place
so
Seven instead of human Giants seven animal Giants. Mm-hmm, and it talks about son of son of God
Sons of God rather line of Seth daughters of men line of Cain's
intermarrying and
having kids and those kids were mighty men who were of old men of renown and to your idea of
Going and slaying the monsters slaying the beasts slaying the Giants is still still works
Yeah, and so what's what the word could be all of them. Let's figure it out. Hold on
The word here for sons of God is Elohim
These are the options it gives and God's in the ordinary sense
To that's one two, but specifically used of the supreme God three occasionally applied by way of
deference to magistrates
for and sometimes as
superlative superlative
Superlative whatever. What's the super? What's that again?
It's like a mister missus. I think so Stephen, you know
Superlative strong
Exhaustive concordance
angels
comma exceeding comma God comma very great comma mighty
Plural of Elwha God's in the ordinary sense
Specifically used. Yeah of the supreme God
Supreme God being y'all
so sons of God if
So children of Yahweh
No, no, it doesn't say
It says Elohim. Yeah, which is usually used for Yahweh
It's what that that's what I heard you say, but now Yahweh specifically I'm saying Yahweh on purpose
Because that's what all caps Lord would be right? Yeah, and in this ver the my versions
the LSB
Hold on I don't take the LSB. Okay, I'm interested to see what this is
Just for the audience who has no idea what you're doing, what are you doing? I I was looking at the interlin linear
And trying to look at what's what's interlinear?
Interlinear is the original language, which we did say earlier
Oh, we were saying we were looking at the original language, but I
Didn't know where you get that from person. I also
The strong's concordance
what is that because
It's
Also
You
Barely know what that is
it's just
the database in which
Okay, it says God
interesting that
From my understanding is the database in which?
the old
Language is kept in sort of defined. Yeah, okay
So you just looked up the LSB
Yes, as God and it says God it does not say Yahweh. So
Okay, LSB says Yahweh if it says yeah, it says Yahweh and and it the word is Yahweh
Yeah, so
The usage of ha Elohim, that's the word here
It's confusing
Yeah, I think we need to dig into this later but this is a huge
Story. Yeah, there's so much here that we could dig into
So many different way more angles than I ever thought there could be for this particular passage. Yeah
And to think all of this came from me making a stupid joke about Noah
Getting it on with his wife so they has more laborers to make the the boat before the flood
Yeah, that's crazy, um, but yeah, so
The
The the point that I was actually trying to get to cool before we ended
What has to do with the fact that?
There is going to be great destruction
Everyone that we laid out except for most boozle. Ah
Died before the flood
right and
That's interesting because Lamech
the father
of Noah also died
Before the flood the flood. Yeah, not during the flood and you're saying that could be a mercy and I'm saying
I'm definitely saying that to mercy because he lived the least amount of time
That's true. And he lived
777 years which is the whackers. Yeah
so
What I thought you were saying is is it a mercy that God ended all life on earth except for Noah's family and I was
thinking maybe because but I was also thinking when you were talking about that was
Adam lived how many years and he had how much time?
To get a leg up on
millions of people
Potentially sure. What about Kings and his family line? Yeah, and those people that like we're cursed
Anyways, let's just make the most of it. Yeah
Wouldn't they be going around enslaving people causing war causing havoc heartache
Killing people unnecessarily just all over the place just blood spilt. Yeah
torture for no reason
And so when I read
From that mindset what Lamex said about Noah where he says this one
Will comfort us concerning our work and the toil of our hands because of the ground which the Lord has cursed
Put in a new light
So maybe that's like God save us
Yeah, and I know that you will save us through my son here and that's beckoning to Jesus
obviously
But Lamex somehow knew there was something special about Noah
We don't know exactly what he knew but he knew something
Otherwise, he wouldn't have said this and would he have said this and the way he said it
unless he
Was not comfortable
Well, and and the thing is too is that it's in the Bible for a reason yeah
So
First off it's crazy that Moses would know this it's not crazy
But but it's crazy if Noah, sorry if Moses. Oh boy
if Moses
did not
hear directly from God like if if Moses was
Just a man on the evolutionary timeline. Mm-hmm and God did not exist. This would be absolutely bonkers
yeah, I
Think what we can take from this
In
Grand scheme of things. Mm-hmm. Is that
Due to the evil that we are capable of yeah, it is a mercy that we die early
well
In God's time, but on time. Yeah
But a shorter time, yeah, which is a mercy to us because like we talked about the
The garden was cut off. Mm-hmm
Access. Mm-hmm. Nobody can go there because of the one trees. Oh, I've never thought about of life, right?
Yeah, he says he's like, you know, we're going to cast them out of the garden and
Put up the defense. Yeah so that they will not also eat of the tree of life, right?
And we see why because they have forced too long. Yeah, and but if
Imagine if the tree of life is each isn't well is immortal life will say yeah
If it is forever after yeah, if it is if you become immortal who is not going to eat it
Everybody would every especially the cursed one. Yeah, especially and and so
Because they know what's for them after
They die is nothing good. Yeah, they're not they're not tied with God at all
Yeah, and so why would God do anything for them?
Yes, and so, of course, they're gonna want to live as long as possible
Use as many people as possible
To lift themselves up in any way they possibly can
Yeah, I think where you're going is
Adam
For the brunt of the curse he brought upon mankind
No, but sure. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so that's word
You pointing that out made me think of that like we only have to live a hundred and something years. Yes, max. Yeah
he
had to nearly live a thousand years and
see
Seven generations of how much he screwed up. Yeah
And in and I easy I get so tired of living and I'm only 28
And Lord take me now, but it's he lived
930 years. Yeah
Because like from an emotional standpoint. Mm-hmm
I mean like you're saying like most of us are a lot a lot of people don't even want to live
Past 40. Mm-hmm, and they want to just off it off themselves. But who are the people that want to live longer?
The people that want to make a difference
maybe
Yeah, like Paul to live is for Christ. Yeah to die is gain. So we had a good balance. But what I'm getting at is
Those who want to live longer are usually the ones that don't have
Anything to look forward to after death
And whether they believe they're going to hell or they believe there's nothing after mm-hmm still there's nothing to look forward to
well, there is a sense of
from Adam
came to
Slides line of evil in the line of good in the line of God, hopefully
Not hopefully definitely the line of the sons of God. Sure
and
Adam knowing what it is like to be in the presence of God fully completely perfect
He both knows how awful it is
that
They have fallen from grace
but he
also knows how great it is to be by God's side and so there is a sense of
Perhaps he wanted to live as long as he did so that he could point his descendants towards
God, right?
Adam yeah. Yeah, maybe
Point and I mean because we see
Enoch he lives the least amount of time
You know, well in mercy, yeah, and and we see at the beginning of
chapter 5 that
Adam
Fathered
Seth
In his own likeness after his image and again, obviously we're in her what that's a lot
Oh
Plus the idea that Eve says I've
gotten another son
Because both Abel and Cain are dead. Yeah, I don't think it says Cain is dead
But says that he killed Abel, but yeah, and they're considering him as the new first son
Yeah is the idea? Yeah in the genealogy that
Keep going
Um
There's something there I forget that this this gives me the idea because if if after
Adam fathers what it seems like Seth like differently after this from Cain and Abel. That's what it was. Yeah
then Seth
fathering Enos
When people began to call upon the name of the Lord, which I imagine Adam
Tried to have a hand in you know
Guiding people towards calling on the name of the Lord
Yeah, I just I just see I hope that this is a man that
Desires to make God known and
Ensure that there is more
More of that than the evil that he caused
And I imagine that it's incredibly humbling yeah
To know how badly you messed up see it playing out in real time 930 years. Yeah
Because and what's crazy too if you think about it, he was a man
When he was born when he was created he was a man
Yeah, so
True he was passed 20 years off of everybody else. So like 950
2030 to grow up through 20s for your brain to mature. We're assuming Oh process has stayed the same. So, yeah
so he's like I
Don't know I don't know where I was going with that, but that's he's he's had more time. Yeah as an adult
There's a lot to digest here do with that. But yeah, so the to the two things God
Killing off this line specifically
Having their time come before the flood
as a bunch of them, I mean
yeah, it's a mercy and I
mean, there's a huge jump three hundred and
66 years
361 years before Jared
And then another five hundred in 95 years
After that Lamech, so what I mean we have so many years
Killing off this that
That happened before the flood and in those years clearly there is a lot of evil a lot of
destruction
Sorry, how many years I
Missed that part. How many years and how many I say 595? No, I just didn't listen. I didn't hear
there's 234 years, sorry between
Creation and enosh
between
Mahou shale who's
Mahalal, yeah and
Jared
Okay
So there's just this
continued growth of time
That people are dying before the flood
Oh
There's there's a greater people start dying. Yeah, and there's so there's a greater number
before the flood between
some of the people and
You know that and I think that's why we see
Enoch dying so early
Lamech dying
So early, obviously Lamech had to be
Around to have Enoch at the time that he did
You're gonna die when you need to die
It's all that to say you were going to die when you need to die and and it's just because God has
Created or allowed death I guess
Does not mean that he's using it or wielding it
Mercilessly, yeah, he's not using it to crush his enemies. He does not
How does it say it he does not he's not pleased by the death of his enemies, yeah
In fact, it's sorrowful. Yeah and fools
Enjoy crushing their enemies. God's no fool. Yeah, you're gonna die. So even in death
God is merciful. No, and then a painful death maybe that's there because of
mercy to others
Being
vengeance being justice
For other people right maybe that's where it gets watered down and grace. Yeah, right
Like what is good and what is bad?
We have no right to understand it. Yeah, God does we have no way to see it unless God tells us
Anything else before I go off on a huge tangent, which I'll keep shorts because I took notes. Sure. Nothing else. Yeah
So you help me get here. So thank you
My goodness, I've got a the last person that so that's me
Started believing in Hitler. So just be careful
Thanks for watching everybody I mean worshipping other really practically that's nuts might as well be in just
Wow, okay, so
Where should I start
Adam in the beginning you gotta created the house in the beginning God
Created Adam. Yes in his image. Yes, Adam, and you've created Seth in his image. Yeah
Why does it say that and then why does this say the sons of God?
Which we think might be the line of Seth
Came in to the daughters of man and had the men of renown who conquered Giants and
I think that's more evidence that that pattern of like
image of God so God
Images himself Adam Adam images himself Seth
So this is a plus B plus C
So this is a plus B plus C
Was it no a equals B B equals C C equals D ding be
D being
The line of Seth, yeah, right
so
The sons of God
And
Would line up with being a line
That was made in the image of God who's made in the image of God
Seth because he was made in the image of Adam who was made in the image of God
Set connect
Yeah, so just more evidence towards
Chapter six talking about sons of God being just the line of Seth. Okay
another thing that I notice is
Cain is not the son of God anymore. He's cursed
And Adam doesn't Adam and Eve don't see him as a son in their image anymore. Sure
Which is why they're not
Distinguished as sons of God. They're distinguished as daughters of man. Mm-hmm
Or or just descendants of Cain, yeah, right
Why did in chapter 4 verse?
25 26 26. Why did they start calling on the name of the Lord?
I
Think it's talking about verse certainly not verse chapter 6 where the sons of God
Started having children with the daughters of man
Which was not good
And at the same time God saw that as not good and the reason to end the earth
Mixing the cursed line with the line of God was no bueno
So beyond the sins that everybody was committing anyways, because the sons of God, of course, they're gonna son
They're not perfect we see that with what it talks about Noah like it says perfect among his
Line I think it was basically among his ancestors. He was perfect
Which means I think the line of Seth is
The perfect line not because of anything they're doing but because God has decided this is the line that I'm gonna follow through to my son
Yeah, right
This
Does that make sense? So verse 26 and as for Seth to him also was
To
Also to him also a son was born and he named him Enos
Then men began to call on the name of the Lord. Mm-hmm
Why is that back-to-back and then we see Enos?
being the one
Where's the Enos born, what is this?
135 235 years in right and then we see
I guess this wouldn't line up timeline wise. Hold on. So Noah was
600 when the flood happened
So there could be a giant period of time where the sons of God are
Intermarrying with these the daughters of man
And
That's when these sons of God start calling on the name of God on the name of the Lord
Because they notice that's wrong. So make any sense at all. Yeah, okay
Anyways, that's astounding to me because I've never thought about it that way sure and I think all of this is tying together in a way
that
Again to me I've described this before it feels like national treasure
Yeah, where all the clues are coming together and it starts to make sense
Yeah, that's wild I
Crazy, I'm gonna have to keep on like bringing these
Ideas together because I feel like I'm on the way. Mm-hmm. This is fine blowing to me. I mean it
It's crazy to think about the sons of God differently from how we've grown up
But so another thing that I want to bring up
And let's end on this yes, yeah, I thought that would be more mind-blowing than it was but I mean
It just it just helps with with this idea
We're not
We know what other people have said we have a good idea. You know, what is tradition traditionally interpretation?
Yeah, like traditionally interpreted. Yes. Okay, we we understand that
widely because
Grew up in the church and we've heard a lot of the same things for a long time. Yeah
But
Reading when you read the Bible
It doesn't matter what man has said. It doesn't matter what we've said right now does not
what God has said is more important and
You know granted we're talking about technicalities here and we're talking about things that that in the grand scheme of things
We can't prove and maybe doesn't matter. Yeah
But but when we get and we've even done this when we get to the deeper topics, you know, this is
We are wrestling we're doing a lot of
Unearthing and and trying to make sense, but also
Anything that doesn't make sense really? No
Yeah, whatever. Yeah, maybe not probably not but yeah, whatever. This is what it says and there's only so much we can do with that
And that's important because we have to
We want to be honest with our own thoughts when we're reading the Bible
But we also want to be honest with what the text actually says
And so when you know doing all this and we've gone on a bunch of tangents now
Even still
we
We're we're searching through scripture. We're trying to remember what what we know and we're doing it very wrong
We're not doing any research. Really? I've done a little bit of research
We're you know, but like but is it wrong what the way that we're doing it? No, I'm not saying it
I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying he said very wrong or did I mishear? Ah, he's right. Ah, ah
gotcha and
But we're looking to scripture and we're looking at it as the ultimate
Is the authority on truth?
and
That's that's where we need to come back to every time
Yeah, and and and and and that faith that this is the words of God yeah and and seek
And dig deeper and deeper and deeper all the time, you know, and and we're looking at we're looking at genealogy
It's not the craziest
Awesome mind-blowing thing like clearly we just finished, you know through chapter 4 and
That was crazy. That was a wild trip. Yeah
But except for the end there it was kind of sure my opinion but but you know, we're here and
There is still opportunity to do things on our own. I mean to really to really do it on our own and stop
Relying on other people to do it for us. Yeah. Yeah
And isn't that called growing up?
Yeah, it's called yeah a lot of things so, you know, that's our encouragement
To our listeners to everybody grow up
And just
God seek his truth
In his truth in his word what he said in what he actually says
Rather than what other people say that it says yeah, um, don't don't take
uh what anybody says
um as
Scripture. Yeah, as they say, yeah, don't don't believe anybody believe god. Yeah
I'll see the who is the church that paul kept on mentioning that was great at like testing this the the words Koreans
The Koreans so Koreans would bring their bibles to bible study and make sure that the pastor wasn't being a radical
Yeah, and they would assume he was being radical
But they weren't like to get them or anything right I assume but
That's the idea is uh
Consume it
Yeah, um know it yourself intimately. Uh know it so well
that
When someone asks you hey, hey michael, how many years uh, did did canin live before he had a kid?
Yeah, you have a faint idea. Sure
Over under 100 under right? You don't need to be like you don't even need to know that but just like yeah, this is
Scripture this is god talking. Yeah, this is god
Allowing a permanent record of what he has said, uh to be in front of you
And if you take it as that
Which I know
For some is hard
But if you you believe with faith as small as a mustard seed, right?
And you build off of that and read what he has said
What I what we've found in the past
few episodes is
He will prove himself over and over and over and over. Yeah
In the biggest ways and in the smallest ways in the details and in the overarching picture. This is god, which is
Crazy to witness firsthand. Yeah, not through your pastor. I'm really excited to get to joseph
Um last part being key by yourself with like you consuming you doing it raw as you said not
Sitting in church on sunday. Yeah
Although you can't do it that way. Just bring your bible and make sure that what the pastor is saying is
True. Yeah. Yeah what we found this is episode 15. Yes. Um
We could just call this episode genealogy
Yes, um, you know, it's good because
A lot of it was genealogy
Um, what if we call it, uh, we drew the lawn drew the lawn drawing the line
Because we did draw it out. Oh, okay
Genealogy drawing the line. Mm. I like it. Um, we hope that this was
Not interesting interesting interesting. Uh, I mean, you know again, it's not
Our usual content. No, I I hope that it was edifying. I hope that yeah, you know, it wasn't
This is episode 15
Scene is boring. Yeah, um primarily because the word of god is not boring. No, and this is we are well we can be yeah
This is endlessly fascinating because these are entire lives. This is
1656 years
of
history
Of evil entering the world and growing exponentially. Yeah, and in god
Choosing to to reduce that and then reduce the number of years that evil is living really
And
You know, it's it is important. I mean it's part of this is a history book
The word of god is is a history, but we see a lot of history happening here
um
So read your words, uh get better at reading your words
Uh, I talked to my shepherding elder yesterday and he's like, you know, we read our word
for nourishment
Because it is nourishing
And you know because it's all pointing towards god. It's all pointing towards his truth and
and
the the accuracy and and
And infallibility of it so
Read your work
And and join us as we I mean it's part of seek
God through the scriptures
Uh, if you have any comments questions concerns constructive criticisms
Um, if you think that you can do a better version of this episode do it
Make it more interesting
uh
and
You know
ultimately
We hope to do this together
Not just us three, but I mean we want to bring other people on the podcast. We want to have people in the audience
um, and we want to
Accuracy do what god wants us to do what god wants us to do and and be the church
um
so
Yeah, join us this concludes our episode. Um, i'll pray sounds cool I think and uh,
That's yeah, we'll be done
Lord you you think that you can do a better episode you planned all this
Uh, it is in your will
that
and
All this would happen that from the line of seth to get noah, not just us three who
be our means of staying on the earth, of continuing on the earth, rather than the flood being
the ultimate destruction of man. And you've given us the opportunity to seek your word
and enjoy it in multiple different ways. We don't just have to read it and memorize it,
but we can read it and search through all the different words, all the different languages,
find all the different numbers and compare and find all the different names and their
meanings and we get to think and ponder about what has happened in several thousands of
years that you don't speak a lot on. And you've given us creative minds, you've given us intelligent
minds to be able to look at your word and see more than just words on a page, but see life
that you have given to us. Lord, I pray that we walk away being thankful for our lives,
but also thankful that at some point you will take us home, you will bring us home on your
terms, and that we can delight in that, that we can delight in the life that you've given to us,
to serve you for your purposes, to have children for your purposes. And Lord, I pray we do not
take that for granted, as it is easy to do so, that we are alive because we just are. It's so
easy to forget that we are alive for your glory and for our good. So Lord, please keep that in
the forefront of our minds, that our minds be on things above rather than below, on the life in
which you have granted us, and the life that we are to proclaim to the world through the gospel,
so that when we die, it is not spiritual death, but life eternal with you. And I pray this all
in your name. Amen.
Cool. Thanks, man.
Boom.
That was a crazy prayer, crazy episode.
It's a lot.
Yeah, man. I'm excited for these next episodes, dude.
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